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Originally Posted by Globalgunner
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Sanogo. The one time you would hide from your rescuer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
I didn't watch the game as I was out but my understanding was that it was a fuck over on the scale of Old Trafford 2004Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
Football is not worth anyone's free time, never mind their money or foolish dedication.
Watch other sports and enjoy the skill and sportsmanship that's not been eroded through years of malpractice, contemptible greed and outright corruption.
Football is beyond repair and if Arsenal devolve into a reprehensible outfit which does anything and everything in order gain three measly, ephemeral points on a digital table ultimately ranking the richest and most powerful, then it will be disappointing, funny and understandable.
But football is not a thing worth discussing seriously anymore. All we can do is derive some joy from the less well-endowed clubs hopefully out-cheating the scum that resides at the top of the game.
We can discuss sport in the tennis/athletics/darts/bowls threads from now on. And talk about politics and Letters' royal fetish maybe.
When it come to Arsenal, I am always honest, on wednesday we deserved to get beaten. But today, well it was an absolute joke. No way should we have lost that, and I dont think we would have done if the ref had not been a total arse-wipe. Games like that make m wonder why i even bother, because I know nothing will change. the FA wont reverse the red card, they wont do anything about Costa, and wont sort out a bias/shite ref. Next time it will be someone else that is cheated out of a victory. Its times like these that someone needs punishing in a big way to show others that this sort of crap is not acceptable in the modern game.
I bet Wenger will get a fine or a touchline ban for his comments about costa.
of course he will. He will also be warned about his future conduct, that is something they ave warned Mour about a good 10 times! the FA are so weak. They want managers feelings after the game, but only want them to stick to a certain script, go off that an say anything about the players, ref, manager of another team and you get hauled up. Its utter BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by adzzzbatch
Garth Crooks :bow:
Vid - https://twitter.com/BBCMOTD/status/645238744430178304
Saying it how it is
someone has too :faint:Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Alan McInally sain on Sky he wanted to pull Costas ears off :respect:
First time i find myself agreeing with a Spud
Now i feel kinda funny
It's anyone who has the interests of football and sport at heart against the Mourinhos and the Deans and Costas who are a cancer on sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Time to do something better with our free time dudes.
It's sad, isn't it? It's something we've spent our whole lives following. People. places, jobs, all come and go, but The Arsenal has always been there. But when you come to the realisation that this isn't really sport any more, that the cards are stacked against us... I just don't know any more. There's always been a nagging doubt at the back of my mind. It's like wrestling now. Sure, it's entertaining, but it's not really a competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
By the way, Mike Dean, ladies and gents...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SPb8CYF4o4
Predictable result, even if we'd had 15 men we'd have still lost, maybe we were unlucky with the sending off today, let's face it Wenger has ridden his luck for years and eventually it catches up with you, his neglect of the team and failure to address problems is finally catching up with him. If we were a top team we'd have probably managed to hold out for a 0-0 or even nick it 1-0 just as we use to do when we were a great team.
Anyway no real surprise we lost, who expected us to win this game anyway, have no sympathy for Wenger, he's brought it on himself IMO.
Chelsea have had an awful start to the season and are now just a few points behind, great start to the season for us then!
Feel bad for Gabriel, but not for Wenger, decisions or not we'd have lost this match, just as we do every single season, not giving Wenger anymore excuses or leeway now, we hadn't manage to score before the sending off 45 minutes in anyhow.
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Originally Posted by LDG
yep sad but true, whether that's down to the cheating refs, players or wenger, Ty and Comical Ali ....it's all just not worth it anymore
...at least it won't be hard to get laughs from GW, i'll be coming on here for some football comedy but the real thing is dead to me now
I fucking hate football sometimes. This is just blatant cheating. What a pussified, jelly-back, cowardly display.
I'd have been happy to see Costa's legs snapped in two this afternoon. Someone should have done him over. It's a cowardly display all round and I'm pissed off.
1 - Costa is a cheating coward. Gesturing for bookings, rolling around like he's been shot, provoking players, elbows, scratching like a bitch. He should have been sent off.
2 - We have some cowards on our team. Gabriel was the only one with a backbone. Coq tried to intervene but the rest turned their jellybacks and didn't say a word. Kosienly is softer than Andrex toilet paper. Costa used him to wipe his ass. What a chump! Why wasn't he backing Gabriel up or at least stepping in to defuse the situation. Same goes for the lot of them. I only recall Coquelin getting involved. Only when Gabriel wanted to knock Costa out we had players stepping in to restrain Gabriel. Bunch of pussies. These guys have no backbone.
3 - If the FA don't do anything about Costa....fuck it...we all know they won't because they're cowards. They should be doing something about Mike Dean's performance because that was suspect. No need for sending offs except for that dirty shit, Diego Costa. What a clown. We didn't deserve to lose that game. Not in that manner anyway. They see Gabriel's small kick but didn't see anything of what Costa did? Isn't gesturing for players to be carded a bookable offence. Ridiculous.
General feeling I get from social media, ex pros and pundits etc, is that Costa was cheating, and in the wrong. That is something, I dont think its going to be so much of a "sour grapes from arsenal fans" stuff. I really hope someone properly owns costa at some point. the massive twat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
This is what I was talking about a few weeks back PnG. We need more cynical, horrible shits to gain real leverage in this league. We used that have that in abundance. Although, there is only so much you can do to combat incompetent refeering.
Costa's a cheat, what's new, he was just the same in Spain, you know what you're getting with him, if you react you're playing into his hands. Sure he should have been sent off, wouldn't have made an iota of difference though we'd have still lost, because that's what we always do when we play Chelsea is a meaningful match.
Costa's been getting away with stuff like this for years, it's not going to change, if as a team you don't know that then your clearly not doing your homework.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPR6NdlWUAAUWAv.jpg
Just saw this now.
Fucking prick.
Long gone are the days we had Lauren, Cole, Keown, Vieira taking no shit from anyone
Only Gabriel went to that prick
FFS Arsenal
I could not agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
I can watch just about every single Arsenal match live if I want to but I don't because I have no faith at all and have'nt done for years now.
I fully expected a loss today but I have seen a few minutes of the highlights if you can call them that.
Costa does anything he likes but Gabriel gets sent off, Cazorla gets harshly sent off, and they get a wicked deflection for their second goal.
It seems as though we cannot blame Wenger for this match.
However, we have 193 million in the bank and yet Arteta and Flamini are still in our squad.
We must fight like hell now to get 4th place because that is the best we can hope for this season.
Years more of this kind of thing to come.
I am completely disillusioned with football in general, especially Arsenal.
The sendings off only and general twat display from the ref serves to mask what was essentially another piss poor performance from us. Before Gabriel was sent off we hadnt laid a finger on them, though Chelsea were just as crap. The most likely outcome without the refs intervention was a nil-nil draw, or a Hazard dive giving them a penalty. We are not a good team, the performance at home against Pool should have shown us that even before the CL debacle.
You're right in some sense. I wanted someone to snap Costa in two after that sending off. Nobody did a damn thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
But that's just my desire to see vengeance. Gabriel is our cynical guy and he got sent off today. So you're right about only being able to do so much against that. The refs have to do their jobs but it winds me up how these placid players just accept what's dished out to them. They don't even need to be cynical. Just grow some balls and fight for your fellow players. Have a word with the ref. Grab Gabriel, take him to the side to cool him down if we've been told to keep it professional. But these guys don't say a word to each other. Santi hobbled his dumpy self to speak with the ref for a few seconds and then strolled off again. And what the fuck was Kos doing after he's the one that was man handled?
Pisses me off.
What a bunch of weaklings we have in our squad! No backbone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9nRWwfJZuw
Someone needs to take these three aside and tell them to stop this shit. Not right in front of mocking Chelsea fans FFS!
Gabriel was stupid to do that in front of the ref, especially a dick that Dean. Just bide his time and get his sneaky revenge later. Any of our old defenders would've done the same, or midfielders. At half time can you imagine Keown, Vieira, Lehmann just walking off quietly? They would've been right in that pricks face. Get him to react and sent off. Our old teams used to stand up for each other, not look at the floor when it's kicking off. Fire themselves up at half time by winding up Costa, jostling a few players, don't just trudge off. We have a very likeable bunch of guys, but who wants that? You can pinpoint several wankers in other teams based on how they conduct themselves on the pitch. We used to be hated. Not just because of our success but because we were niggly little bastards too. It is so much a part and parcel of being successful. The little, snide things that fire you up, gain little advantages and get under the skin of the opposition and fans. It happens in any sport you can think of. As soon as that side of our game left he squad with the last of the Invincibles, we stopped winning. There are short memories about how rough and ready we could be back in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
They're celebs now.
No point expecting any leadership or discipline when Cazorla is your captain. Hardly the kind of bloke you stop and listen to, unless you're exchanging pleasantries.
More views = more moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Having said that, I don't think AFTV even pay them for their interviews lol
The fact that Cazorla was captain today says it all about the personalities in our team. Who else is there if Merts is out? Coq doesn't need that put on his shoulders yet with all the work he has to do. Cech has only been here five minutes. Ramsey, Alexis, Bellerin Ozil, Kos, Theo? No way. Maybe Monreal?
I wouldn't say short memories about that squad. Although agree about the complete wimps we have in our squad, I think a better ref would have handled that game in a different way. It's not just the lack of dirty bustard, it's the overall lack of leadership. Something that's been said a lot before. Besides not standing up for ourselves, somebody needed to slap Cazorla, Ramsey and Ozil. They had really poor games. But I get what your saying and it is one of many problems we have at this club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
It's just the right personalities isn't it? You usually get good leaders who are happy to use underhand tactics alongside their vocal and physical attributes. Something else Wenger used to be good at identifying. But as you say, one of many problems in this squad.
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Originally Posted by Kano
Looking at how much the team dynamics have changed over the last decade is pretty sad if I'm honest. :(
Wenger doesnt want characters. I have said it several times. The first player he got rid of was Wrighty. Why, i guess because he was mouthy and independent minded.
Slowly he has weaned the team of these fiery combative types. Leaving us with petulant easily cowed types like Fabregas who ironically is becoming a scrote under Mourinho.
It is no coincidence that we have failed to challenge for big trophies since
And therein lies the problem, or a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
I'm an idealist. I like to think the best of people. And maybe that's naive but I still like to think it.
I like to think that referees aren't corrupt. If they are then what's the point?
But in the first of our two Cup Finals of late when we got back to 2-2 we were denied about 4 penalties, 2 maybe 3 of which were stonewall. We got there in the end but it did seem like the ref was doing all he could to stop us.
I didn't see today's game as I was on the plane home but from what I've heard we were holding our own and then got completely fucked over by the ref. And while we're all Arsenal fans and thus hardly neutral, I saw Garth Crooks say pretty much the same.
So...yeah, we can replace Wenger and that may fix some repeated mistakes (although the new guy will have flaws too) but while the billionaires are spunking left, right and centre and refs are doing this sort of thing I don't care who the manager is, winning the league will be next to impossible.
Football :rose:
I miss the days when it was a sport.
That pretty much sums up my thoughts. About an hour ago I called my mate up to talk about that refereeing performance. He had the match recorded but heard the score and thought it was just another Arsenal capitulation, which was surprising given he is quite the Wengerite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm
He was pretty surprised to hear my take on things because no matter how much I'll always appreciate what Wenger has done in the past, I am to put it mildly, not a Wengerite today.
I put my mate straight about what happened today, but at the end of the call, instead of feeling better having got it off my chest, I feel fucking sick.
And over the next few days it will get worse. Because the fucking frauds that run the game are going to come after us again, no doubt for bringing the game into disrepute. Can you imagine that? The crooks that corrupt our game will have the gall to do that rather than deal with the real cancel infecting this sport.
We could have got a certain nasty, vicious cunt who also happens to be an outstanding footballer for £28mill and £90kpw but he didn't have enough quality. Hasn't taken lomg for the penny pinching to bite us in the arse. Goals and balls is what we needed to buy in during the summer. But it was impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
That legendary investigative journalist Ashton has already started the ball rolling. The bad old Arsenal that lacks discipline is back - apparently. I'd love to meet this guy so I could show him what indiscipline really is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
Maureen's vision of the beautiful game:
Specialist in cancer.Quote:
"If you want to speak about Diego Costa, he plays like he has to play and that is why you have full stadiums and you sell the game to television around the world for millions, because the game has to be played like that."