Olivier Giroud has now failed to score in EIGHT consecutive games across all competitions for Arsenal.
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Olivier Giroud has now failed to score in EIGHT consecutive games across all competitions for Arsenal.
Hold on a minute - I didn't say the defence was bad tonight. I was responding to some post in defence of Merts and apart from a few incidents he was fine along with the rest of them. That's because Bellerin, Monreal, Coq and Ramsey did an awful lot of work - a huge amount. Ox too, defensively in the first half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I'm saying time is up with Wenger and his lower shelf shopping bargains - Merts being one of them. Proper manager and proper players needed now. A decade of this stupid shit is enough.
Wenger did mention the Monaco game in his post match comments. Too gung ho on attack and it sounds like it's something he warned them about.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
I don't watch loads of football these days, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Has he managed to find an angle to shift the blame - again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Oh well, at least we always qualify from the group eh?
I thought we played ok in patches but always ran the risk of getting picked off if we didn't take any chances. Textbook really.
Hard to care about the result but what I do care about is how woefully out of form our forwards are. As I said after the Hull game, if we don't win the league this year it will be because our attack is garbage.
Season is in the balance. We need to shape up quickly.
You don't remember that hilarious CL tie where their ref was so outrageous I ended up hoping a bunch of chavs would win? The one where Drogba went ballistic? That's Barca's finest hour. Or when RvC was sent off by their ref because the crowd was too noisy? Plus many. many more greatest hits from the second biggest cheats in the business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Predictable. Best moment from him was when he got a header on the ball. Other than that, it wasn't his sort of game. Wenger should have been looking for an alternative option and preparing as soon as we drew Barca. It was always going to be a game where we'd have little possession but could create from quick counters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
That spell in the 2nd half where we started to get on top of them and hold possession was our undoing. Well, that and poor quality in the final third.
It's crazy. We did our homework for this one and he knew what to expect from Barca and this type of game but he made some silly decisions. Giroud was never a fit for this or game or the tactics we were going with. Ox has no end product. Doesn't assist or score but he gets the start. Ox was obviously injured but he kept him on for the 2nd half and that could have costs us when Neymar broke down the right to have a shot on goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We looked to have Barca rattled with the early subs we made but he then decides to sub off Coquelin for Flamini? Why? :shrug: Plus why wasn't Elmo on the bench and how comes he's not getting games at all?
We had a good chance to get something from tonight. Players have themselves to blame in certain areas but I really don't know what Wenger was expecting with that team selection.
Obviously I remember those but the Chelsea one was hilarious because it was Chelsea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The RVC one...that was just the ref cheating to be fair, not the Barca players.
This. I thought it was a decent effort for 2/3 of the game, and I thought the manager's tactics were sound. 2 mistakes - and Barca will kill you, and they did. Only issue I have is Wenger subbing the Coq. I think it was done with one eye on the Manure fixture, and this is what I don't like - play the game you are in, not the one you are about to play - particularly against a team like Barcelona. I'm sad rather than angry because I thought we deserved better than the result...Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
When they play in a league where is it within the laws for one team to pay another as an incentive to perform better against their rivals, that is where the lines become blurred. So the incessant cheating is a knock on effect of the entitlement they believe they have to win and always be protected by the ref and authorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Thought the ref was very pro Barca tonight, TBF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
It's a common theme and it's no coincidence that many teams across the years have been left feeling the referee has been their 12th man.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
I didn't generally think that but that challenge by Coq which was perfectly timed, he clearly got the ball first.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
But, of course, the Barca player rolls around like a fanny screaming his head off and it's given as a foul :rolleyes:
I didn't generally think that but that challenge by Coq which was perfectly timed, he clearly got the ball first.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
But, of course, the Barca player rolls around like a fanny screaming his head off and it's given as a foul :rolleyes:
Jodi Alba vs Giroud? The free kicks we weren't given? The Ramsey tackle that was deemed a foul....Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
For a while I thought we could nick a draw but the lack of incisiveness in our play was very evident. They all just seem consumed with fear, no one wants to take any responsibility as summed up by Giroud opting to pass when he had some space in the box to have a clear shot on goal. Even Alexis has lost his mind.
It's really rancid right now, you can't help but fear for our title challenge if this carries on. We can't expect to win anything with such a horribly out of form attack.
Change the manager today and we win the title. Don't change him and we don't win the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We should have swapped out Giroud a month ago. He has totally lost his way again. Sanchez is looking in bad shape. Ramsey can't hit a barn door at the moment. Ozil isn't getting many chances on goal..Wenger has to change things around. Welbeck is looking pretty sharp and it may be worth giving him a shot up front. We can't just keep trying with the same line up and hoping for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
:gp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Bring Campbell back into the fold too
do something different
Welbeck looks hungry so it's worth giving him a shot, but then again admirably running around a lot is a trait of his. I'm not sure if he's ever going to be a 20+ striker.
Basically it all smells of wee right now. I don't understand how Wenger has managed to create a team that not only struggle to construct meaningful play, but also lack a killer instinct infront of goal. "YOU ARE ALLOWED TO FUCKING SHOOT" was what the bloke near me kept shouting tonight. :lol:
WUMger has become far too pragmatic in his old age, he knows he limitations of his team but just rolls with it.
I'd settle for one that can score 10!
Why? We've been doing it for 10 years. Maybe next time it will be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
He might not get 20 but he can run with a ball without club footing it 50 yards ahead of him and he's showing confidence. The way the team is passing and shooting right now any small advantage would be appreciated. And tell Campbell you are allowed to shoot. Or Elneny. Where are they now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
He's a self-fulfilling fuck-up. He only got the tactics right tonight because he's removed any element that would have given him a choice. Of course if you scrape the bargain bucket for players to fill key positions then you will come off worse when you are on a pitch with Suarez, the guy he wanted to pay the release clause plus a quid for. Doesn't that just sum Wenger up so perfectly? +£1, there's probably a rule that states transfer bids must be rounded to the nearest pound otherwise he'd have offered just the extra penny. And the guy he thought was only worth the extra quid has 40+ goals. Where would we be today with those 40 goals - for a player that had already done the business in the PL FFS!? What now for an extra £10mill tagged onto that Suarez bid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
The super irritating thing is even with all Wenger's many, many fuck-ups the team showed a bit of discipline tonight and stuck to the task. And with a finisher up top there's nothing to say we couldn't be heading off to Spain next month with a couple of goals advantage. We made some good chances. But there's always a Wenger roadblock or pitfall waiting. Exactly, his genius move tonight was to use the pace of Giroud in our counter-attacking set up. A real master stroke, or maybe just the result of a stroke. So it doesn't really matter how much the players give, Wenger can do things that will nullify their best efforts. Not deliberately of course, but through sheer incompetence. And the the Flamini thing. When do we call the doctor on this guy? If you see your granddad wandering in traffic with a glazed expression you move him into your home or find him somewhere to live where there are people watching out for him. At Arsenal the senile old fool gets to direct the fucking traffic. It's absurd.
The Giroud/Alba incident again
vid: https://streamable.com/s/soccer?first=9kv6
:haha:
What a diving pussio midget cunt. Giroud should've just punched him and got red carded, would've been more useful off the pitch
Flamini basically gave a pen away before he managed to touch the ball when he came on.....
Just stop with this now peeerlease...... Gordon bloody Bennett!
Flamini has become WUMger's finest WUM.
We all wondered whether he had something special up his sleeve and he has really delivered.
Not sure he'll outdo himself here.
When you have the like's of this guy getting into your team sums it up for me.One word for me sums up where we are as a football club "stagnation".It really has gone way past the time for change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Someone in the match thread said Wenger wanted shares in his companyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Accurate imo :coffee:
Just watching the highlights now, didn't realise how much of a sitter the Oxlade chance was. The whole goal to aim for but he scuffs it at the keeper on the deck. :doh:
Fine margins and as usual we fall on the wrong side of them.
Just got home and fuck it. We bossed the 1st half, lost shape in the 2nd conceded and then flamini happened. the rest is history. I was more fucked off with the cunts that left with 10 mins to go, yeah we were 0-1 but support the team FFS!!!!!!
Yeah Flamini was at faultQuote:
Originally Posted by adzzzbatch
Most people are forgetting Mertesacker shitting the bed which led to that though
Agreed on that, fucking cunts
Let the pair of em f*** off. If they want to leave, they can leave. If anything it helps the next manager keep the very players that want to play for the shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
I thought we actually played quite well last night. Shame we couldn't put away one of the chances we created. Last night was clearly evident that we lack the required quality in key areas and if we don't upgrade those areas then I fail to see we are going to progress and improve as a CL team.
Nothing much else to say really, the tie was settled last night.
Thought we were well in the game up til 70 mins and we really should have scored. Yet again we concede on the counter attack 0-0 would have been a half decent result. I went last night and thought the barca fans were very quiet I suppose after a while the novelty of messi scoring and a barca win does wear off.
It would be interesting to see what Wenger does in the 2nd leg as we really have no chance, as we will concede and for us to score 3 times we will need about 100 chances. Arsenal should just play the reserves and cover all the cost of the fans who are travelling over there
Funnily enough Cech hadn't conceded a goal against Messi until he played for us and now Messi has scored 8 against us.
I can't be disappointed in the result as I expected it to be even worse. However, what is of concern was how many opportunities we managed to create only for them all to go unfinished. 180 minutes of cup tie play at home this week and 0 goals to show for it.
There has been a lot said about Ox's miss, but Jesus H, what the hell was going through Giroud's mind when with a clear opportunity at goal he lays the ball off to...nobody? I can't figure that out at all. He is the main striker, has an excellent opportunity against the best teamin the world and decides - literally to pass on that opportunity. What striker does that?
This has been yet another predictably disappointing season to this point and unless something changes dramatically and soon, like Giroud, we as a team are collectively passing up on the best chance of success we've had in over a decade.
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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
https://twitter.com/JOE_co_uk/status/702239518691356673
That’s the problem with Giroud. When he’s in the box, ball to feet, he mostly looks to pass. I have no idea why he’d look to pass to Theo in that situation. It makes no sense to pass it there. He’s on his preferred left foot so you’d have thought he’d be looking up and towards goal for the shot or if he can play the ball across goal. Senseless.