Simeone for me.
Even if it all went pear shaped, just to see a lunatic come in and give some of our players a kick up the arse would be worth it.
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Simeone for me.
Even if it all went pear shaped, just to see a lunatic come in and give some of our players a kick up the arse would be worth it.
I reckon Rod Hull would do a decent job.
Nobody at all would be better. Just have no manager and it would be a huge improvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
'Arry please
Might not be a bad idea. He'd definitely trash their bottom line and if the money wasn't rolling in and was instead going to Arry's dog they might all piss off.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Ok you seem like someone who would start a row in an empty house I don't want to get in a keyboard argument I'm leaving it here but you called me an idiot are you Neville in disguiseQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Then if he attends to see who we get in the next round of the Cup we could chant "There's Somebody At The Draw".Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
:dance:
:getcoat:
Well, my house is empty right now so I guess you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by redordead
Apologies for calling you an idiot :hug:
We are all gooners and love the arsenal we are as one x up the arseQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
The Seville coach (Sampali sp??) is a pretty good coach. He is wanted by Barca though so could be tricky but he's definitely a good choice. Currently doing well with limited resources at Seville, won a few things with Chili and would help convince Sanchez to stay.
Does anyone remember Arsenal Wenger being under this much pressure before and this close to leaving? It's very exciting knowing we could be under a new (and hopefully better) manager next season.
Unless Wenger decides to stay, which would be his greatest WUM.
We need a new owner as well, a lot of Arsenals problems stem from Kroenke and his lack of ambition for playing success
Kroenke is a huge problem as well because he is clearly not interested in what happens on the pitch. He won't be going anytime soon though because he is making money for basically doing fuck all.
At the risk of using social media as a barometer, last night was a watershed moment....not in the result but in the attitude of Wengers staunchest defenders. The only argument people are making for him staying now is that there is not enough time between now and the start of the season to replace every facet of what Wenger does in a football sense. Which for me is total horse shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
The club releasing the statement they did, when they have never done like that before suggests it's the end. He's past the point of no return in the fact that his position is untenable, people would just not turn up next season. Last night ironically came closer to Uniting the fan base than any decent result could have.
The same pressure was there last season but him leaving was never on the cards because he still had a year to run. Now though, it's very much a realistic prospect. The fanbase has never been as vocal as it is now and it would take some real bare faced cheek for Wenger to sign a new deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
He's going and I'm looking forward to change. I could not give a flying fuck about the remainder of this season. Unless we see some miracles.
If he finally does leave, I'll be pretty happy, we can once again look forward to unpredictability and excitement, it's been a long time coming! It may take some time for a new manager to changes things due to the fact one man has controlled so much for so long, but it'll be worth it.
My only concern is seeing another Wenger clone coming in and Wenger going upstairs and this new guy being his yes man. Wenger needs to leave the club and never be involved again.
Agree about Kroenke though, he has not interest, would be great if he sold up to someone more like Abrahmovic who cares about what's happening on the pitch, once upon a time when he apeared people we predicting Chelsea collapsing when he left them after getting bored, never happened though as the guy clearly loves football and Chelsea.
We are less than 24 hours after the Bayern debacle. The corporation wants Wenger to stay. Wenger wants to stay. The fans want him gone. Let's not just assume the fans are going to win this based on something we've seen many times before. Pressure needs to be constantly applied to force him out the door. Too many people feeling sympathy for a man who brought a ton of shit on himself and everyone associated with the club. Too many people assuming the job is done. Far from it. Let the pressure off for just a moment and they'll find a way to cement this guy in place for at least another 2 years.
Kroenke not caring could be considered a blessing in disguise if he left us alone and appointed someone who actually cared about club Arsenal and winning things to run the club. E,g let Gazidis actually do his job and sack the loon in charge. We dont need his money. The club is self sustaining enough to compete with the best and with the right manager at the helm, we could go from strength to strength on the pitch as well as in the accounts. We have lost so many fans in the last decade who didnt join the club because there is no allure to.
Arsenal gained a world following in the early 2000`s because of the immense success of the invincible era. Like it or not kids do not always follow their fathers allegiances. Not with the same fervour anyway.
I could take Wenger leaving today with Bould at the helm till the summer and Allegri taking over. If Wenger stays we are definitely losing Ozil and Sanches and I cannot see any world class player coming to take their places with shit shows like yesterday now the norm rather than the exception.
cant be any worseQuote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
I'm starting to get the feeling that something will be announced soon.
2 more years for Wenget :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thierrymon
Press conference is live on .com tomorrow. Do they usually do that?
If it's on at 7PM then it's big. Maybe some good news to cheer us all after a big defeat, like signing up a new sponsor that will pour 30mill into new cars for the players, or Stan having his latest offer for a ranch accepted.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...Wenger-out/amp
Come on Arsene, do the right thing.
The sooner he announces he is leaving, the sooner we can get past all of this toxicity and frustration around the club at the moment. Then we can at least spend the rest of the season being appreciative to the man that did so much for the club in the past, get behind the team and hopefully give him a good send off.
I agree it would be better to make the decision now as opposed to the end of the season. I don't think it would be a Pellegrini / Man City situation where players stop trying, the fans will be united behind him and it would be nice to cheer him again.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by redordead
:good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thierrymon
I think if he goes now people will appreciate what he's done for us. While I understand the frustration of repeated mistakes and the balls he comes out with in interviews (although no more than most managers), I'll never understand the level of hatred which some people direct towards him. IMO that should be reserved for the board who have allowed this situation to go on and are quite happy to let it go on while the money keeps rolling in. Wenger at least cares and wants us to do better, even if he's not able to.
Wenger and Kroenke both need to go, to make any real progress. Kroenke won't go unless there is someone out there who will make it financially worthwhile for him to do so. Someone who is committed to Arsenal winning. The new regime should be in place as soon as possible even if they do not officially start till the end of the season. Only in that way will there be any chance of those players that wish to leave staying.
I think Alexis is off by the looks of it. He reportedly kicked off after the defeat.
You don't remember what is like before the sponsorship deals? The Board were getting it on a daily basis. Ivan and Stan were constantly being held up as the problem but nobody wanted to criticise Wenger. People kept on saying it would be a mistake to get rid of Wenger. He was untouchable and the Board knew how popular he was. Wenger's made this situation for himself. The way he has spoken about the fans over the past few years hasn't helped either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I think he's gone already, regardless of what happens with the manager situation. Wouldn't be surprised if he has already agreed something in private with one of the big Italian clubs or back to Spain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I have a feeling that Ozil will stay because he knows he has it good at Arsenal.
'No matter what happens I will manage next season, whether it’s here or somewhere else' - Next Barca manager? :whistle:
He also said he will decide his future in March or April.
Utter, utter, utter contempt for the fans again.
Roll him out so he can spout the same old bullshit. After a performance like that he couldn't give the fans even a second of honesty, just the same preachy, never-had-it-so-good horse manure.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...y-Arsenal.html
How many "sources" do we have at the club? Sounds like the tea lady chimed in on this one.
#MadeUpNews
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It might have something to do with him washing his hands of any of the blame and having the audacity to point the finger at the people effectively paying his wages the fans, no other manager in the history of the game and blamed the fans as much as he has. In addition to that, his holier than thou attitude and his I know better than everyone else in the whole wide world because I've made more than 20000 substitutions and you haven't despite going 12 odd years with little success really doesn't help.
Hatred may be a bit harsh, but it's easy to see why people get very irritated with him, he never learns, insists he's always right despite plety of evidence to the contrary and deflects the blame away from himself and the players.....then at the end of the season when he gets a pathetic 4th place he pats himself and the players on the back and says good job another big trophy in the bag.
He's way past his sell by date and frankly he's developed a really pompous attitude as well, and that goes for when anyone dares question his methods and he gets annoyed as well, they have to filter questions out at the AGM for goodness sake because he's scaed to face the music.
Hi comment about people's attitudes just because we lost 2 games sums him up really, he's totally oblivious to what has taken place for som many years.
I'll also never forget him blaming the fans for Adebayor (they guy who hasn't been able to stick to one club for his entire career) leaving.
Sums him up and this is one of the reasons some people really can't stand him, he really insults the fans intelligence, frankly amazed people have supported him for so long give his attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I'll be very glad to see the back of him and certainly won't shed a tear, well if I do it will be a tear of joy!
Remember what what was like? On here? It was more mixed, admittedly, but there were a lot of people moaning about Wenger before the new financial deals too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
He was certainly not untouchable, not on here anyway.
A lot of people defended him saying he had no money, he was doing a great job it was all the boards fault, only a handful put the balme on his doorstep, he's getting it in the ear now because he has no excuses to hide behind anymore, about time too really he is in charge with the football aside after all (and a lot more if you believe what you hear) and he just hasn't been doing a good enough job for many a year.
Yes he gets 4th place, but really that's just a springboard or should be, no other club would just settle for getting 4th every year, we're now just a club that accepts being 2nd best, it runs right through the club and that I'm afraid is very much Wenger's fault, he's instilled that in the players and it's very evident on the pitch, no desire, ho hunger, no appreciation for the fans.
It's going to take some time to get rid of that, because it's been going on so long, once upon a time we dreamed about challenging the very best clubs after our move to the new stadium, Wednesday was yet another example of the culmination of his work, we're miles away from the top clubs and unlike them the losers mentality is rife and goes right through the club from top to bottom.
People harp on about doing things the right way and yet we have an owner who's only interest is money, would rather have the guy at Chelsea who clearly cares about the club and winning, in my eyes that's certainly more right than what we're doing.
I think we're a shadow of the club we once were.