Daily Mirror columnist John Cross just tweeted:
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"Ignore that post by DoG. He's made a grand total of zero substitutions!"
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Daily Mirror columnist John Cross just tweeted:
Quote:
"Ignore that post by DoG. He's made a grand total of zero substitutions!"
Seems we've agreed a fee anywhere between £35m and £40m.
I like him if only for snubbing Chelsea.
Should've held out for 40 million and one.
Hilarious that Pool actually stumped up £35m for Ox :haha:
They should've just low balled us
35 - 40 million lovely, sexy quid. I wish I could bundle it up into one big roll and fuck it until the queen's face rubs off. I want to lie in it and pant, and writhe around in it making animal sounds. Wow, this is the horniest I have felt since the RvC deal.
If the Alexis deal goes through too. Fucking hell.
40m for Ox :lol:
"Confirmed to Chelsea" Hmm
This ideal situation doesn't seem all it's cracked up to be.
They should have bid £35m and £1 :lol:
They're smoking us at Anfield, 4-0. And now they're signed one of our Internationals who doesn't want to be at our club any more. Liverpool are not the ones with the problems. Like I said before, people are judging our players based on their performances under Wenger and that's a mistake. Wenger couldn't get a goal out of Messi, he's a total fuck-up and he fucks-up everyone he touches. But Ox is young enough and talented enough to recover and rejuvenate his career and I suspect that's exactly what he's going to do.
I'm not buying into a single word about the players jumping ship this time around. In fact I wave them all off with good wishes because that's exactly what I'd be doing in the situation. It's come to the stage where the bigger questions need to be asked about those players who want to stay. I mean, why? Exactly. Isn't it far more likely the money grabbers and the unambitious are sticking at Arsenal, whereas those looking to achieve something are compelled to GTFO?
We don't have a club until Kroenke and Wenger fuck off and it has taken a long time for many fans and most of the players to realise that. We'll be losing a lot more players over the coming 12 months.
Because he's been so successful for us playing on the wing! ;) Excuse the sarcasm but Ox started his career as a central midfielder. His inconsistency on the wing for us may stem from the fact that it's not his natural position. Even Wenger has said he his future is a midfielder but the wing is helping him develop. But how? Check Wenger's explanation.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/29/arsena...#ixzz4rGInnF00Quote:
‘In the future, he will play in central midfield. But at the moment, this wing-back role has suited him well.
‘He can use his power and it suits him well because he is facing the game when he gets the ball.
‘I think he looks to be comfortable when he is running at people and when he has the ball at his feet.
‘What he is doing at the moment will help him to be a successful central midfielder as well.’
It makes zero sense to get him accustomed to always having the game in front of him and always having to use his power, pace and dribbling. As a central midfielder he has to get used to seeing the whole pitch and always having to play on the pivot. Why the heck is playing as wingback and especially when he's not good at it? He has everything in his locker to play through the middle, a much better passer and chance creator than Wilshere and Ramsey but it's only because he's quick and has power that he's pushed over to the wing in a more physical role.
Look at this quick video and it's worth finding this match again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tELCrQOpsCk
As well we have Ramsey who refuses to play there.
:gp:
Yep I agree with this DoG. Assuming this all goes through he has made the right choice for his career IMO. He has obviously thought long and hard about this and feels his development is best served at Liverpool. I think he will do well there and I think Klopp clearly is doing a good job developing some of the younger players at Liverpool and the established English ones like Lallana and Henderson.
If things don't change at Arsenal then I think we will see more and more players seek opportunities elsewhere. I have a feeling Ramsey will walk when his contract is due, I believe he has less than 2 years on it.
I hope this really hurts Wenger, he has core first team players seeking opportunities elsewhere, they specifically want to work with managers of our so called rivals. I hope Wenger understands that HIS way is wrong and that things need to change because this current situation has gotten out of hand and it is totally unacceptable that a club of our stature is being run this way.
Haven't we had enough 4 0's off Liverpool recently?
Thanks, I guess.
I imagine he'll be rotation/backup for the midfield 3, and also for Salah. Plus it's guaranteed that at some point Mane and/or Salah's hamstrings will pop, Henderson still has question marks over his fitness and we generally need a stronger squad anyway given the extra games, especially with Lallana out for a while and Coutinho terminally ill.
Fair to say it hasn't exactly been universally well received, but I'm still in the "trust the manager" stage.
Right up there with
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ienp4J3pW7U
I'm very surprised Liverpool have matched Chelsea's offer.
Good for our coffers though. Which is the most important thing as well all know.
These young players can't give Wenger the keys to their career so freely. You can't allow someone that thought Xhaka was a box to box midfielder and thinks Elneny can play as CB to re-brand your position and pigeon hole you into a box you're uncomfortable with and didn't sign up for. Players have trusted Wenger and allowed him to take them from a position they know to a position they don't know and left to sink or swim with no real education. Just look at Gibbs. Started his career as midfielder and trusted Wenger to turn him into a leftback. That's failed miserably and now he lacks the skills to play either left back or midfield. Now surplus to requirements and being moved on. Imagine if he were bitter about not getting his shot on as a midfielder?
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3464
Never rated him, good riddance.
Sad news that our players won't sign, but at least Wenger signed.
So the club initially didn't want him and met his contract run down....before offering him a new deal a week before the window closes....before selling him on deadline day.
Making it up as they go along.
Good to hear that Ox turned down £180k from us and £220k from Chelsea to sign for £120k at Liverpool. He put football before money. Rare.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...amberlain.html
This can't be right Wenger said Ox wasn't going to be sold!
Yep. Can't fault the kid for his conduct here. And he didn't bad mouth the club either. I think the worst he did was retweet something last year that was critical of Wenger's decision making. Hope he keeps that policy going and doesn't shit on us after the move. He'd be better off forgetting his whole experience here entirely. Don't blame him for being distracted on that pitch last Sunday either. Sometimes it can get disorientating in the middle of chaos and shambles. And by the his priority would have been a desperate search for the emergency exit.
Like I said, at least we signed Wenger up. Because, face it, that has been the absolute priority of this shitty club beyond the usual money raking. We poured everything into the worst possibly option. Same old Arsenal.
No you've deliberately misheard
Wenger never said he wouldn't be sold.
He was referring to a thick new coat Ox had bought to brave those bitter Merseyside winters and said he wouldnt be Cold
Pretty bloody amazing analysis of Ox over on RAWK.
https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum...92#msg15569492
Still can't believe he was starting games for us. Especially last Sunday.
Will be interesting to see if a different manager can get more consistency out of him. There are moments of brilliance and :banghead: in equal measure.
But he definitely improved last season, and we are losing squad depth with him going. Would much rather have seen someone like Theo make way. Good luck to him.
There's not even a question. Ox will rip it up under Klopp. He's always had the talent but he's been coached by a moron. He's young enough to recover. Liverpool's the perfect place for him. I've always wanted to see what Ox could achieve in a sane environment. I had hoped that would be Arsenal with Wenger long sacked. Alas, the old cunt has somehow managed to hang on.