I’m more angry at myself for spending the guts of 2 hours watching a team that is allowed to not give a shit.
That and listening to Robbie Savage.
Disgusting.
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I’m more angry at myself for spending the guts of 2 hours watching a team that is allowed to not give a shit.
That and listening to Robbie Savage.
Disgusting.
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Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72
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Originally Posted by Niall Quinn
For those interested, I didn't watch the game yesterday. Completely ignored it. And yet I still know how it went. I can see the sideways and backwards tippy tappy. I can see the sloppy passing. I can see the wastage in front of goal. I can see the shitty attempts at crossing, the deadbeat dead ball routines, the stupid substitutions. I already knew it would be a crappy team selection, that's a given. I can see Wenger sitting on his arse doing fuck all as the performance deteriorated and became ever more stale. I can see our precious little petals limping around the place. Envisage Bould's pointless scowl. Hear the opposition chants of, 'Wenger, we want you to stay!'. I can picture the ref as he goes through his one-eyed paces. I can see the highly paid professionals flopping around the place and sailing through the air at a mere touch. Ah, football!
It's all there. Fact is, you don't have to actually watch the games to experience them. It's such a time saver. And more enjoyable, in my opinion. Yesterday I allowed the odd fantasy to slip into the boring reality. I imagined we were playing well. Just for a second, to see what it felt like. It definitely added to the experience. Next week I'm going to imagine we're defending properly. What a relief that will be.
All in all, I enjoyed this match more than any other so far this season.
Anyone seen the Deeney interview on BT? cant believe what i was watching. Calling out the players and management for being softies.
Deeney is an ex-con gobshite.
At least we beat Chelsea 0-0.
Comprehensively even. No one has been able to beat them sinceQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We could do with a few players that had his mentality. We miss that here.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
The type of people who think it’s ok to kick people in the head when they are on the floor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
I agree our players are in a coseted environment. Yeah the penalty was a wrong decision but you deal with it, yeah you may not be given space and time to pick out a pass but you deal with it and make the space for yourself.
But I think we could well do without actual thugs
Like the manager, we have fans that are too far up their own ass and have forgot about the type of players we used to have at this club. Listen to his actual interview and then talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Deeney's being a twat but he's right. We all know it. Wenger doesn't.
Don’t be a bell end all your life mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
I read what Deeney said, I just think it’s a bit rich for a guy who kicks a man in the head whilst he’s on the floor to talk about the cajones of other people.
It’s abundantly clear our players lack balls, I’m just not interested in hearing it from a thug.
Before you call someone a thug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Where you there, did you know what led up to him kicking someone in the?
This arrogance is so damn annoying.
People make mistakes, situations can easily get outta hands. And I've seen too many instances, where people try athletes, either from drinking too much or sheer jealousy.
Resentment against athletes?Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
No I just think only startled horses and wankers kick people in the head
Who cares if he’s an athlete, does it make him any better than the thugs I’ve seen doing it in the street.
It caused a serious head injury otherwise Deeney wouldn’t have got ten months.
It's also a stupid argument from Deeney as it was one of their players who went down "softly" in order to win them the penalty which changed the game.
Talk about hypocritical deflecting .... straight from the school of Jose.
tl;dr - Deeney needs to know his role and shut the fuck up. Mr 40 million pound ex convict scumbag striker ..... would love to see if one of our players care enough to call him out on this BS in the press. Sadly out of the few people that actually care about the club (BFG, Nacho etc ) there isn't one that would have the stones to do it (maybe Jack if he was still committed).
He's right and that's what hurts the most. He most certainly isn't the sharpest tool in the box and hasn't covered himself in glory with his previous criminal misdemeanour but he's only saying what everybody knows and has said in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
None of this matters really, what we do know is that Wenger is incapable of managing, coaching, developing or buying the requisite players we require to improve and mount some kind of credible challenge for the Prem.
We are stagnating, once Ozil and Sanchez leave we are going to be worse off than we were before they joined. We know that Wenger is incapable of finding any kind of solution to rectify our slump, he can't even sell or buy players properly, so what makes any of us think he will rectify this mess?
I just want to see us field a bunch of players that actually care about the club, that take pride in wearing the shirt. Hector didn't even appeal that scandalous penalty decision, none of the other players appealed it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
If rumours are to be believed the following players wanted out in the summer, Sanchez, Bellerin and Mustafi. Why are they still here? That's a quarter of the starting line up and if you throw Ozil in that's a third of the team. Any decent manager worth his salt would have indentified suitable replacements and got shot of these wantaway players.
Wenger has created such a mess with this team that it will take a good few years and a new manager to resolve this.
Damn right. Deeney would be in hospital now, instead of spouting, if he'd been up against Keown, Adams, Bould and the gang.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Yeah, Deeney's a fucking arsehole, little doubt about that. But Wenger and his mega loser philosophy has enabled this little shit to take the piss out of us. So fuck Wenger and fuck him twice for good measure. Just GTFO you cunt.
This is Watford lads. Elton fucking John's pansy faggot arse Watford. Taking the piss out of us for being softies!
Time for our precious fans to wake up and smell the bullshit they've been drenched in for over a decade, sound a fucking battle cry and set about getting cunts like Kroenke and Wenger out of this club.
Trouble is, we don't have a decent manager. We have an utter cunt, a selfish prick, a beyond prehistoric relic called Wenger. We're the bitches of every wannabe punk for as long as this French stool is stinking up the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Yep, we are screwed. Wenger is pretty much unsackable judging by what went on last season with the contract renewal crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We beat Bournemouth and Brighton and Bumblefuck Utd, or whoever they all were, and there were fans thinking we were back. Seriously. This is the real problem. Half the fans don't give a fuck or are totally delusional. They are there for the selfies. This is the real problem at this club. Cunts like Wenger and Kroenke would be run out of the place if enough fans gave a fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I said watch the interview before speaking and maybe you'd understand why I say we need more of that mentality. You're talking out of ignorance. This isn't Golf or Tennis you're watching. With football some players come from a working class background and have a sketchy past. Ian Wright was no angel. I'm not judging Deeney off his past. From his interview, he sounds like he has the similar sort of attitude to the old guard players that took Vieira and Co under their wing. The day we thought we were above having that sort of player was the start of our downfall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
https://youtu.be/_48KTftAmeo
You only have to listen for a minute to know why he is captain.
Has he not atoned for his sins already Sherbert?
I did think his comments regarding the actual dive were a load of rubbish though. Absurd that we lose to nobodies like his team these days in such fashion, but the ref royally fuhked us....almost as much as we fuhked ourselves.
yeah, but he's taking the piss out of fellow professionals. And, let's be clear, those follow "professionals" deserve to have the piss taken out of them, but it's not his place to do it. It's the place of the ignorant cunt who owns our club to realise we're faggots. Trouble is, he knows fuck all about football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
We brought all this about ourselves with our indolence. We need to chase these crazy baldheads out of town.
Sorry can you name me a player at the club previously who went to prison for assault?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Don’t get me wrong i believe in redemption but if you’re honestly arguing that our lack of character and ability to mix it up is because we don’t go out of way to be a re homing centre for ex felons, than I suspect you’re talking shit.
Plus what’s the difference between having read his comments or hearing him speaking them? Is there something significantly more profound in the way he says it.
Or are you just talking shit. Every one here accepts that we have pussies for players, doesn’t need a piece of shit like that weighing in.
And I disagree with him, the penalty was EXACTLY why we lost the game.
For all his strength, for all the balls going into our box....the defence was on top of him lumbering oaf that he is. We were shit, our central midfield was shit and we were not in any danger whatsoever up to the penalty award. Then his point about cajones cones into play.
Watford look shit to me, that they are 4th says everything about our league. But horrible little eunuchs that our players are there is no question we would have won without Richarlison diving
Again, if you haven't watched the video and refuse to watch the video, you have no idea what I'm referring to. Sheer ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I did watch the video just to be sure and I didn’t gleam anything from it that I didnt from having read the transcript of what he’d said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
I get the impression you’re in your usual how can you possibly not agree with me mode.
As has been clear from what I said from the start I do think we need tougher minds in the squad, but the people who used to make us more street wise on the pitch didn’t go around kicking peoples heads off of it.
So we lack balls? Fucking profound insight. A blind man could probably tell you that
I suspect he may have been an Arsenal fan or watched us at least in our prime because he stopped short of saying something and then said his son is a Gooner. The brash words may have been something to wind his son up a little. Sounds like they have a few back and forths over football in a joking way. Also, it was a good queue for Keown to chime in. I suspect they spoke before recording. But you're right, this should come from the manager or at least he needs to have more leaders in the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I can see how you'd disagree. Not surprising at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Good shout. That would explain why he's even decided to mention this. Usually players take the most convenient and non-controversial route. The boys did good, the gaffer did great, we all know Arsenal are quality, blah, blah, blah. It's very odd a player other than Roy Keane would come out and say something non-scripted. Whatever. The fact remains we're being trolled by a player who, by his own admission, is a pubber. One of the pubbers who took three points off a (LOL) title contender. We'll finish above Watford in the end, but they'll be closer to us than we are to the eventual champions. So, in reality, Watford is our level as things stand. Well done Ivan. Bayern Watford.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Quite enjoyed that from Deeney if I’m honest, refreshing to hear someone speak his mind and not some media trained robot. Frankly Wenger and club get away with murder and need to be called out in this way more often. Yeah he’s a cunt but that’s missing the point entirely. You’d never hear a current player talking about another top side in this way, it’s embarraasing and shows how little respect these teams have for us now.
https://www.arsenal.com/news/its-unbelievable-lose-game
Wenger thinks we lost because of the penalty decision, it's unbelievable he says. :rolleyes:
No what is unbelievable is how he repeatedly fails to prepare the team properly season after season.
It is unbelievable how weak the mentality of this team is and how they fold like a pack of cards under pressure.
It is unbelievable how he has somehow manage to wreck Central Midfield again, we don't actually have one top class Midfielder.
It is unbelievable how he manages to botch every transfer window, he couldn't even sell players this window.
This is what is unbelievable and these are root causes to why this team is stagnating.
We lost because we're rubbish and have a manager who doesn't have a clue, can't believe there's still the odd few trying to paint it as if we were unlucky, you'd have to be deluded to the highest extreme to think that.
Two seasons in a row they've beaten us there now, it's not the first time. As predicted we lose one or two, then go on a small run winning some easy games and people think we're the 2nd coming, then we lose and they come back down to earth with a bump.
Top teams don't lose games as frequently as we do in the way that we do, we lose because we're just not good enough end of. Yes Wenger has his excuses as he always does, but after years of this excuses don't wash, the only excuses that matters and counts is that Wenger is a sorry excuse for a manager.
So people actually expect us to win games with that kind of crumbling, fumbling performance where the only goal came from our giraffe jumping for the first time in his life. Is that what we are reduced to?. We see how City are blowing teams away with fearless classy performances home and away and we actually expect to compete with that by stumbling across the line to a team with 1/10th of our resources.
Wengers greatest achievement is how he has managed a Vulcan mind meld with seemingly millions of ordinarily intelligent human beings and replaced their lofty ambitions with his own 2nd tier own.
Do you honestly believe that performance against Watford merited 3 points because I did not see us as the better team in any way. Why cant we play like we did against Chelsea.....and add goals to our equation. We play well once in a while when Wengers pride is at stake but only well enough to not lose, every other time its business as usual.
We wuz robbed says Wenger.......same as he did when we were blitzed by Bayern 10-2, same as after every shitty performance.
Deeney pointed out what we have all been saying on these pages for over a decade.....why the hump HCZ?
I finally managed to see Ozil's amazing miss. From the way people were going on I thought I'd be watching casual one on one with the keeper and time to decide where to put it. Far from it. The chance was roughly equivalent to Iwobi's, yet Iwobi is being marked out as our best performer. Maybe he was, don't know, but he also missed a great chance. Two poor efforts at goal, no doubt, but if we're now pretending it's a new thing that our players miss sitters we must have very short memories.
And we have arses in the media claiming Ozil should be a leader. Do they not quite get the reality that Ozil is leaving the club? WTF? Say he did step up and become this great leader. It only lasts until January. So what's the plan after that? Anyone?
Focusing on Ozil is letting that cock Wenger off the hook, which is by design in the media no doubt, but hopefully fans won't get sucked in and will instead keep their guns trained on the real villains in this comic tragedy.
Come on now, we wont he first half of the first game again Bayern, in that tie we were just unlucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner