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For the last time. Filling out internet surveys to claim vouchers, having a hand shandy to porn and calling in at the job centre every two weeks isn’t work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
Someone's been let out on day release :lol:
Have you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
I suppose if they let John Worboys out, they’d let you out too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMxiGI7Rhlo
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the result could have been better. but signing another striker having spent £50m on a striker in the summer... is the answer? who needs a dynamic midfield or an improvement on mustafi.
If we do sign Auba he would be 30 when Wenger leaves. He must be mental to join us right now.
It's laughable we're spending another 55m on a striker having done the same in the summer, while also letting every goal scorer we had leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
Shows how little planning goes into what we do at this club. Everything is done on a whim.
Wenker is at the same level now as Moyes was at United, and that was meant to be our biggest fear and sticking point when talking about who could replace him. We're not even good enough to finish 4th anymore, it won't be hard to replace him now.
No hope for this guy honestly, he still thinks that a few successes over a decade ago are good enough reason to keep a guy who is incompetent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wasn't too surprise to see us lose last night, they beat Liverpool last week who are a far better side than us (albeit inconsistent), the manner of the loss though was something else, well beaten in the end.
I agree though, our defence is shocking and we go and sign another striker, obviously he's top class so you can't say he won't be a good signing but this wasn't the highest prioroty. Personally would have taken the money for Sanchez over Mkhitaryan, Aubameyang is more of a replacement as he scores goals, then we could have focussed on a DM, decent CB and maybe even keeper because Cech is way past it.
Liverpool left the door ajar when they lost to Swansea and gave us an outside chance of top 4 again, last night we well and truly shut that door. Got to agree though, why any top player would want to come I don't know, can only be for the money which is an accusation often thrown at players who leave us for bigger more successful clubs ironically, I think the shoe fits in this case though.
When you hear your manager say "we made unusual massive mistakes" after yet another comedy defense show, you can't help but feel we are fucked.
We have sold our 3 top scorers at the club, only to replace them with a striker. Really can't understand what the fuck is happening at this club. Yes Aubameyang and Mkhi are two world class additions but was it part of the plan? It seems like this club make it up as they go along.
We need a new goal keeper and at least one defensive player. We also need a proper defensive coach.
We need a new manager. It's the one single decision that needs to be made before anything else.
Wasn't surprised we lost and don't care.
Apathetic.
Too depressed to log in yesterday but what a shit show we've become.
Worst feeling is the resignation of all the fans to this crap. You could see it in AFTV videos ..... no one's got the energy more to rant.
:unsure: ummm what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
You really are a strange little man. This is why CK left you. :doh:
We are 8 behind Chelsea and 6 behind Spurs. At the moment Spuds look really good and the most likely to finish top 4 out us Chelsea and them. They still have to go to Anfield and Stanford Bridge and play us and Citeh at Wembley, so hopefully we can capitalise on their potential dropped points.
You mean like we usually do?Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
We should've done that already in this match.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
We've not won more than 3 matches in a row this season and even that has only happened once.
We're not capitalising on shit, it would be a miracle if we finished in the top 4.
City, United, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool, Leicester, Burnley and Watford have all won more points than us away from home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We have the same points from away matches 13 from 13 that Bournemouth have
Back in the day you could count on us to go on one of our trademark "runs" and end up in the top 4. Some seasons it seemed improbable but we'd always get there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Can't see it now. Looking like 6th.
6th Place Trophy. ™
Another first for Wenger :bow:
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Originally Posted by Letters
I never once thought when we finished outside the champions league places that we’d ever end up qualifying again under Wenger
I would not have been so definitive about it. We finished 5th last year by 2 points, it wasn't a given that we'd be quite this crap this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ
We're currently on target to get the lowest points ever under Wenger. It doesn't feel like this is our worst ever squad under him.
The point was made on the ArsenalVision podcast but if you look at points, Wenger is remarkably consistent and always gets around the low 70's range. Heck we got more points last year than the season where we finished second after Spurs imploded on the last day (Lecicester season).Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
The biggest problem is that both Spurs and Liverpool have got their shit together so standing still is no longer no longer good enough.
That is definitely a factor but also this is looking like it's going to be the worst points tally under Wenger. If you look at where we are after 25 games and extrapolate then we'll only get about 64 points which would be the worst we've ever done under Wenger. Obviously we might pick up (we actually had 1 fewer point at this stage in 2005/6 and finished on 67)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Last year we got 75 which would be more than good enough for top 4 most years. If we were getting points at that rate this year we'd be on 49 right now which would put us in 5th, a point off Chelsea.
Biggest problem right now is our away form. Our home form is pretty much good enough to be "up there", our away form is mid-table stuff at best.
Well actually, our away form is currently relegation form at best :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
No. Mid-table. 9th, to be preciseQuote:
Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang
http://www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=england
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Ok :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It feels like relegation form though :sulk:
Well, for a club at our supposed level 3 wins out of 13 is pretty abject. It's only our home form which is keeping us anywhere near the top 4.
It goes back further than that
Last 25 away games
Win 7 Drawn 5 Lost 13
Conceded 44 goals
I wonder why this is. I mean, our home record is as good as anyone's bar City. Meanwhile, away from home we can't score or win for toffees.
It's not like our home crowd are particularly raucous or encouraging, if anything the away support is the louder, more hardcore support.
The simple answer is when you play at home it’s not just the home support but the familiarity of the pitch (there is a standard size football pitch but premier league pitches can differ) which benefits you and makes the opposition more cautious.
But you’re right the vast disparity is bizarre, at home in the last 25 games we have won 20 drawn 3 and lost 2. Which is a difference of a win rate of 80% and a win rate of 28%
As Letters pointed out before, we used to go on a 'run' at around this time to get into the top four. If I remember correctly, the majority of those games always seemed to fall away from home, though I could be wrong.
That does obscure the figures somewhat in the last 5 years.
6th is ideal tbh. We won't have any European distractions and can focus fully on challenging for 6th next season. I'm pretty confident we can do it too. We're stronger then Leicester and Everton. We can take them. We just need to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
The opposition still treat us like a big club when they come to our place and show us respect we don't deserve. I haven't checked, but I bet all of the games where we've been allowed the time and space to play our intricate bullshit occurred at home because the opposition aren't as ambitious. How long we hang on to this fake reputation I don't know. Surely only a matter of time before teams come to our place confident they can get a result.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ
It could also be the non-atmosphere in the stadium. Not joking. Our place is so weird, so dead, it might actually put the other team off or send them asleep. But we are used to it. I think the players even like it. The contented munching sounds coming from the sedate fanatics in the home end.
When we go away the opposition fans are up for it, the home team fancies it and we just collapse into a scared and uber-negative tip tap routine that gets us nowhere and opens up te way for even poor teams to crucify us on the break.
No decline :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
If you go from 15-16 season to now we have played 101 league games 50 at home and 51 away
If you look at the last 50 away games
The first 25 - 12 wins 9 draws 4 defeats (not great) but 19 more points accumulated than the next 25 - 7 wins 5 draws 11 defeats.
Compare that with home form 16 wins 5 draws 4 defeats in the first 25 games followed by 20 wins 3 draws and 2 defeats in the next 25.
Which tells the tale that overall we have gone backwards but if anything our current home form is as good as it’s probably been under Wenger which is the only thing holding this shit together.
We have 7 games left at home this season and apart from City I’d confidently predict we will win them all. Southampton, West Ham, Watford, Stoke, Everton, Burnley.
We have 6 games left away from home and given we’ve lost to Swansea and Bournemouth you have to wonder where the next win comes from. Newcastle? Brighton? Huddersfield?
This is so true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I noticed this at the semi final recently.
The chav fans pretty much sang all through the game until around 5 mins after we got the second goal, then they weren't quite so loud after that.
Our fans are odd at home. Its fairly silent until a chant of 'Arsenal, Arsenal' breaks out, then it goes quiet again for 10-20 mins. There's hardly any kind of fan generated sporting atmosphere. Really peculiar.
Well it's not is it :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang
The real hard core fans have been priced out and the stadium gentrified:lol: hardly the biggest mystery is it :lol: