All round to NQ’s for Netflix and chill.Quote:
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All round to NQ’s for Netflix and chill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
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Mane has been ruled out. :rose:
Listen I have no problem with your kind, but must you try and recruit people like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xhaka Can’t
That’s Senegal out at the group stageQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Well, it’s at NQ’s so there won’t be much chill.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
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What you expect me to read to the end?? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
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Originally Posted by Xhaka Can’t
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
There’s no chill
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Enjoy the match - Mr Christian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I know how you'd feel. It would be based on the money you were getting. The one thing I have learned about you is you have zero morality. Not just on this - but everything. It's all there in text. You don't even understand what morality is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Definition of life these days. There's too much incredible shit going on for any of us to claim virtue. For me it's not about that. It's a personal thing. I already know billions will watch and Gary the fuck Lineker will gush (for cash). And I know most of those people, excluding Gary the fuck of course, probably don't even know how the World Cup actually works. Not sure if I blame them for their staggering ignorance or not. Doesn't matter because they'll prop the whole show up regardless, like they prop governments up, etc, etc. Mindless seekers of gratification. Not evil in themselves, but enablers of evil.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
So my little gesture is trivial on the larger scale, but super important personally. Now if modern football was worth watching and we had a great Brazilian team and a great Argentinian team, and so on, I wonder if I'd sneak a watch here and there? I'd hope not. But hard to say given that modern football is comically inept and fundamentally unentertaining.
You could say refusing to watch is more about common sense than principle.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The gap between your belief in your abilities to discern things and your actual ability continues to amuse.
Mr Dunning, meet Mr Kruger :lol:
Enjoy your virtue signalling. Y'know, the thing you hate unless it's you doing it apparently :tiphat:
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/qatar...diums-12750052
Booze ban. :rose:
Its a World Cup. Not a European cup. It should be held wherever it can find a capable host. People that invade other countries on spurious pretexts and have done so repeatedly, have no business complaining about human rights. Thing that I dont understand is why Qatar decided to host it alone. All those shiny stadia will be near idle after this is all done. Where are the local football teams to fill it?. It should have been a pan Arab affair spread across several countries, but Arab brotherhood is a myth, and Qatar has money to burn literally.
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Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Except putting aside all your usual bullshit it is manifestly not a capable host
The tournament has had to be moved from its usual time slot in summer, there are also clear indications that it won’t be able to handle the amount of people coming into the country in terms of infrastructure or accommodation.
To put it bluntly it will be a shit show. And it seems like FIFA not only corrupt but lacks the balls to admit they’ve fucked things up and the tournament is not fit for purpose
Aye. Also, say what you like about NQ, he hasn't invaded other countries on spurious pretexts, certainly not repeatedly.
It's perfectly reasonable for him and any of us to comment on Qatar's human rights, or lack thereof.
I would not make such a claim, because I couldn’t prove itQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Have you ever met him in person to confirm that he isn’t in fact Henry Kissinger and is just on here to take the piss?
Since you can see the future so well, might as well make a few bob and predict the winner while you are at it. Might change your lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
i dont defend Arab human rights records, they were the first Slavers of Africans before Europe jumped in. Qatar is like most Arab states, they treat foreign workers like crap. They sieze your passport as soon as you get there and essentially you are now at the mercy of your employer. I work in Oil and gas and would never go there.
What I am calling out is the hubris of Europeans who think they are the arbiters of human decency. You are not and never will be. Your human rights records are abhorrent and you never wish to atone for it. the Qataris are amongst the highest investors in UK real estate, why dont you start sanctioning them.
People die on projects, it is terrible and should not happen. People died digging the London tube lines and building the bridges of New York. Are you going to boycott those too?
Your hubris is galling
Your muppetry is hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
The infrastructure you speak about in the west being built on dead workforce was built long before I was born and has been renovated and upgraded more times since then than the planks of the ship of Theseus.
To try and draw a moral equivalence between 19th working practices and what went on in a backwater gulf country that was awarded the tournament as a result of massive corruption is hilarious. And it shows the depth of logic you work from
But addressing your specious arguments head on for one second, these 6,500 dead workers didn’t die from work related injuries like the people who built the railways and skyscrapers did…they died from heat exhaustion, heart attacks and in some cases malnutrition.
As for your assertion about western hypocrisy because we have taken the blood soaked Qatari money, I haven’t said anything that would remotely be seen in disagreement with that. Whilst we continue to tolerate these countries for short term economic gain we really are no better than them.
The Gulf backwater that you speak of owns the Shard and many other of your prize monuments. There is no statute of limitation to human crimes, thats your own wishful thinking. Those you have injured by your national supremacy do not forget.
You havent been to the ME thats why you think its a backwater, Most of their cites are far more modern than any in UK. Modern, yes but a soulless façade. Modern beyond your comprehension and not full of hungry buskers and beggars outside tube stations as I see in London.
You dont give a toss about the Filpinos, and other Asians that have lost their lives building these stadia. You are just pissed that they didnt award it to a "civilised" country that you approve of. Well suck it up. Your FA and Villa loving Prince also tried to bribe FIFA but were outdone. Offering Burberry bags while others were dangling bags of cash. Too bad, again "Its not coming home". Besides show me a civilised country anywhere in NATO.
If any of these workers washed up on your Blighty shores you would likely send them back with a holed dinghy. Human rights is just a convenient cudgel to bash Qatar on the head for the effrontery of beating good ol Engurland to the hosting.
The same conditions as Qatar exist for workers in UAE, Saudi and Kuwait. You dont remember them because there is no WC happening there but the workers suffer just the same, not mostly from work related injuries but from pure frustration leading in many cases to suicide from non payment of salaries and terrible living conditions. Yet your leaders go cap in hand begging same leaders for oil and gas cos well you decided to pick a fight with your other reliable supplier.
Winter is coming, snow already on the ground in some parts of Ukraine. Ukraine refugees are coming over by the millions whether you like it or not. Freezing cold and zero heat and electricity. Coming over to share in your great human empathy. Hope you have plenty of space for them in front of your hearth. Some of them might even want to watch the WC on your TV
Just took a first look at the fixtures - the group stages are an almost total washout even if i wanted to watch, apart from Wales v Ingerland and Germany v Spain there's nothing - how the fuck did most of those teams even qualify or did they all pay FIFA off too??
Alah NobarQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I like this post, instead of asking me what I think you dedicate a lot of paragraphs telling me what I thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Undoubtedly easier to debate a straw man…so I’ll leave you to it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63687412
Basically making the same argument GG does above. But as HCZ has noted, it's a bullshit argument.
It's like saying "why are you criticising me for cheating on my wife, your great grandfather cheated his". :blink:. I mean, what the hell has that got to do with anything.
Pretty much no-one is failing to acknowledge our past misdemeanours. But we're talking about the here and now.
You are the one who asked what difference it would make if you boosted the viewing figures. And I think it was a genuine question. The very idea of a moral stance is incomprehensible to you. So, of course, you try to lay your banal immorality at my doorstep. Because that's who you are. And it takes very little to discern that very basic reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Mr Christian. (And I'm supposed to be the virtue signaller?)
Benzema ruled out of the tournament now. :rolleyes:
That’s Benzema, Pogba and Kante they are withoutQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Although they were without Benzema for the last World Cup…(something to do with blackmail allegations if I recall) and they used Ollie as their 2018 equivalent of Guivarc’h (who apparently is now a swimming pool salesman)
They are in a way liberated by the fact that no one has any expectations of them. They still have a formidable team even without these players but like England very indifferent form of late, and add in the other factor that the French team are perennial squabblers (Gallas getting the hump with Nasri for sitting on his seat on the team coach)
Therefore anything beyond getting out of the group will be an achievement. Normally I’d have them as nailed on to be eliminated in the group stage but I just can’t see how they can fail to overcome Tunisia and Australia (even with the added incentive that I drew Tunisia in my office sweepstake)
If Saliba plays I want them to get knocked out as soon as possible a) because I want him back playing for Arsenal without injuries or exhaustion from being overplayed b) the deeper into the tournament they get the more the vultures will circle
That's my attitude to the entire World Cup, i want france, england, brazil knocked out asap to get players home (switzerland can go through to the final via a series of extra-time-and-pels scenarios though ;) )Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Alex Scott, Alan Shearer and Ashley Williams in the studio.
Qatar v Ecuador starts at 4PM GMT.
Qatar: Saad, Pedro, Bassam, Khoukhi, Abdelkarim, Homam, Al-Haydos, Karim, Aziz, Afif, Almoez.
Subs: Bayati, Salman, Al Aaeldin, Qambar, Muntari, Jibril, Mahmoud, K. Ali, Al Hajri, M. Ali, Barsham
Ecuador: Galindez, Preciado, Torres, Hincapie, Estupinan, Plata, Mendez, Caicedo, Ibarra, Valencia, Estrada.
Subs: Arboleda, Cifuentes, Pacho, Gruezo, Preciado, Ramirez, Arreaga, Mena, Sarmiento, Palacios, Franco, Dominguez, Reasco, Porozo, Rodrigue
1-0 Ecuador!
:haha: Ruled out.
Nothing to see here…
Corruption already :bow:
Wow!. How blatant can you get.? Might as well give the hosts a 2-0 lead from the start.
Went to VAR... the cheque is complete, offside given.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I see what you did thereQuote:
Originally Posted by GP