Jones sent off ffs - f*ck this game
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Jones sent off ffs - f*ck this game
Gary Neville. :lol:
What is he on.
Red for Jones!
Disallowed goal for Diaz.
1-0 Son. :sick:
Richarlison hits the post.
Shame both of these sides can’t lose. Liverpool have ridden their luck ridiculously this season away from home. And although I don’t mind him on a personal level, it is high time Crocodile Greeky gets knocked back on his ample backside
1-1 Gakpo
1-1 Gakpo!
Now end the match.
He's just Neil Ruddock with an Aussie accent to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
He comes across as quite a likeable bloke it has to be said, shame who he is coachingQuote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
What a chance for Diaz.
1-1 HT.
Great save from Alisson!
And another one off Son!
Disallowed goal for Son!
Second yellow for Jota. :doh:
Oh dear. Spurs if they don’t win this. :lol:
I think Liverpool should just line up their remaining players on the goalline.
Matip own goal :rolleyes:
Spuds win it. :sick:
Stunning strike.
2-1 FT.
:sick:
Bloody scousers can't get anything right
Spuds on the other hand being so jammy this season, 12 mins extra time, sending offs, Jorginho etc, am starting to get worried about where this is going...
I’m pissed off but I’m not worried.
They’re being lucky, that doesn’t keep happening because maths.
They are stronger this season, but nah, they’re still Spurs.
There’s a good chance they’ll finish in the top 4 given the fact their schedule is so straight forward. Shouldn’t be underestimated what a wave of positivity can do though, we’ve experienced it ourselves once we pulled ourselves out of our misery and found a connection with the team again.
PGMOL issue an apology to Liverpool.
Apology FC is PGMOL.
The use of VAR is so embarrassing.
The schedule is a good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
And yes they are riding a wave of positivity, but they’re also being lucky.
Top 4 is certainly plausible given how awful Chelsea and Utd are being so far, but it’s still early days. I’d back City, Liverpool and us for Top 4 which only leaves one space. If Utd don’t get their act together then Spurs are a plausible option
Liverpool issue a club statement over Saturday’s game talking about “exploring options”
Oh fuck right off. Every club has been shafted by VAR or more importantly the people using it. Maybe if you’d managed to keep 11 players on the pitch you might not have lost.
Maybe they can explore options to address Joel Matip being a terrible defender
if 'exploring options' means legal action against the FA/PGMOL then I'm good with it, someone has to make these f*****s accountable for their dreadful decisionsQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
They do need to be held accountable but aside from internal action I don’t see what else you can do? It’s pathetic that these discussions are still being had but legal action over poor officiating in sports seems bizarre to me.
Liverpool just need to suck it up because almost every team in the league has been on the wrong end of a shit VAR decision.
What’s the legal remedy they could realistically pursue?. You can’t really legislate against human errorQuote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Neither can a court decide whether someone can carry on in a job if they are a fuck up
No idea, I just thought that's what they were implying by exploring options - if you think it means something else then tell me, I don't knowQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
No, I honestly can’t think of what else they might mean, I just fail to see what will come of any such exploration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
sure but i still think that anything that calls the officials into question is fine by me, some of the decisions we see are a total jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I've been an apologist for VAR. My general thought is it's the "Right Thing To Do". Why keep getting things wrong when you can correct them?
But the implementation of it is shockingly bad. They just need a bit of common sense. One could argue that the offside decision against Spurs, while wrong, wasn't a "clear and obvious error". He was onside but it was fairly tight. So in a sense I'm OK with that wrong decision standing, or would be IF they were consistent. To be consistent, let that Utd goal stand. And was it Fulham we "scored" against a couple of years back but Saka forgot to trim his toenails that morning so was a pixel offside. That sort of thing is bollox and is spoiling the game. It's getting to the point where you almost can't celebrate some goals because the spectre of VAR hangs over everything.
While we're here, the handball rule is bullshit. It's ridiculous that defenders are now forced to play with their arms behind their back lest they give away a penalty when the ball is blasted at them. These problems don't feel that difficult to solve, like I said a bit of common sense is needed.
all agreed though i think the arms behind the back thing has gone on for a long timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I cannot fathom those decisions in favour of Man Ure (Rashford) and Citeh (can't remember who) where players were deemd 'not interfering with play' - for me any offside player is interfering as the goalie and defenders have to keep half an eye on them - they should scrap that rule IMO
Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I agree RE: you feel like you can’t celebrate a goal in case VAR takes it away.
And clear and obvious error seems to be taking five minutes to look for a needle in a haystack, but at the same time making actually ludicrous decisions. You’d be better off letting a machine algorithm do it and then the decision would be made in seconds and less to argue about.
Perversely though I think with VAR, without it. It’s the imperfections and the controversy that adds to the game rather than detracts from it. It generates discussion, arguments etc but given that it was meant to eliminate all that it’s a bit of a joke.
I just think a better way to do that would be internally (not within the PGMOL because it feels like they’ll just close ranks) but the premier league as an organisation stating that a VAR mistake should result in a year’s suspension from officiating at this level, and a second error should involve permanent dismissal from the league. There needs to be more diversity in terms of where referees are from in the country to prevent accusations of a Manchester based stitch up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Aye, this is the thing. You're never going to get this perfect and as you say these talking points are part of the experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
But when the thing which is supposed to be removing or reducing these controversies that is actually adding to them it's a bit silly.
The main thing which spoils the experience is the hesitance to celebrate goals - there was always a bit of that, you'd sometimes start celebrating and then see the linesman's flag. But now you're having to wait minutes while all this nonsense goes on.
Fulham: Leno, Castagne, Diop, Ream, Robinson, Reed, Palhinha, Pereira, Wilson, Jimenez, Willian.
Subs: Rodak, Bassey, Decordova-Reid, Cairney, Ballo-Toure, Muniz, Iwobi, Vinicius, Lukic.
Chelsea: Sanchez, Disasi, Silva, Colwill, Cucurella, Gallagher, Caicedo, Fernandez, Mudryk, Broja, Palmer.
Subs: Petrovic, Sterling, Ugochukwu, Maatsen, Washington, Gilchrist, Brooking, Matos, Madueke.