This is exactly like the Havertz goal they chalked off for us in January
But this is utterly pathetic from us
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This is exactly like the Havertz goal they chalked off for us in January
But this is utterly pathetic from us
Ah. Then have an upgrade to: end the season, fam!Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
What have we bottled? We were never in the title race.
2nd isn’t a trophy
The game ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
We had a one goal lead in the game
Not bad enough to be drawing games, we are going to lose this one
Plus you realise we are at Anfield next. We could finish outside the top five
Becoming a collapse.
Arteta can fuck off, bringing on Sterling
Top 5 isn’t even assured and you’re asking me what we’ve bottled?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
This has been a disgrace of a season and the inquest will rightfully be had when PSG dump us out next week.
Utter fucking joke this is
Unforgivable
Arteta has to go, being doubled by Bournemouth? There’s no context that makes that ok
1-2 FT
Arteta can fuck off, complete and utter cunt
How dare he. Turn our club into something so pathetic like that
Momentum :bow::
Dress rehearsal :bow:
Terrible
Well, no argument there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
But we haven’t bottled anything, we were never in a position to.
We bottled the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Hopeless second half.
Rancid. And well my feelings on this are already clear.
It's hard to even want to watch on Wednesday.
Well I might have a bit more sympathy with you on the Mo issue in this one (haven’t changed my mind about the palace game though)Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Completely Toothless.
I’m not even convinced that’s a thingQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Of course you can bottle a game, and we didQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
We had the lead and we threw it away
That was down to nerves
Being doubled by Bournemouth. That’s a fucking disgrace
Same shit is going to happen with Newcastle isn’t it
Four games without a win at home. We don’t even have defensive solidity to point to anymore
If they do turn in a listless performance, it's not acceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
As in, I won't be sad for any of them bar one or two to be phased out of the side.
Standards have dropped probably fatally, in football terms.
The players aren’t responsible for this, the coach isQuote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
He’s got to go. Everyone deep down knows this, even those in the cult of Arteta in the online world
In a genuine fight now to finish top 5.
Words fail me. This team and its coach stinks, what a huge regression this season. Totally unforgivable drop off.
Why would they be nervous of Bournemourh?Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Do calm down, we lost a game, the only bottler is Ode in front of goal,it's shameful that he just won't take a shot
For me it proves why we should have fielded an alternative team, they couldn't have done worse and now we've run people'a batteries down even further and done nothing for so-called momentum
You might be right but there's no way he is going.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
We are now in a real dogfight potentially for top 5 and your answer is we should have made things even worseQuote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
We were nervous because of our habbit of getting a lead and not holding onto it, because there’s not enough goals in the team
I blame the players much less than I do Arteta and also the club, they've been let down by poor squad building and management
Nerves about what? We didn’t need a win to secure the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Fine, you can bottle a game in the context of a title run in. We aren’t in one.
It just feels like we have collectively given up. It’s pretty pathetic.
Obviously a turnaround on Wednesday would mitigate.
I still haven’t completely given up that although I am edging towards team Maccy in that you can’t keep on getting poor results and then suddenly turn it on for a big game
How could it be worse than losing :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Oh and genuinely no offence but it's 'habit' btw
I wonder whether he will survive another season without a trophy. I don’t mean this year, I mean next. They have backed him financially with very little return.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Big summer coming up.
Because we didn’t lose to Palace, Everton, BrentfordQuote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
And you’ve been crying out for us to play a significantly weakened team for weeks
Yeah one more trophyless year and there will be big questions asked, if I was Arteta I might look for a move this summer before his bubble bursts entirelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
And if we win the CL he might jump ship anyway
Different doesn't necessarily mean weakerQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
If the first team is tired and saving themselves for a 'bigger' game that leads to a 'weakened' team anyway doesn't it?
Especially compared with 'fringe' players who'd jump at the chance to get a start and do their damnest to keep their place in the team
The idea that the players were saving themselves for Wednesday is supposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
And yes it does mean weakened if you’re replacing first team players with those from the academy. Players who even if they were good enough have next to no experience at this level.
The first team was played in more or less its entirety because we needed to win because the teams around us are closing in.
The nerves I’ve mentioned are because the only team in the league we’ve beaten in over a month is Ipswich town. We can’t hold onto leads so a 1-0 lead made us nervous, we are as I’ve said a confidence team so we make mistakes when we are nervous.
As for fringe players. Who exactly
Jorginho is injured, Calafiori is injured, you detest Zinchenko, Sterling im sorry but we really have persisted with him and it’s getting no better…his legs have gone…he’s finished at this level. So then we are left with Nwaneri…well no quarrel there id have played him today instead of Odegaard
We don’t actually have that big a squad after the summer because we wanted to lighten the wage bill
...and they have little experience because they're never given a chance, so it becomes a self-fulfiling prophecy
If I was a manager I'd be rotating and switching things regualarly, giving everyone .minutes and keeping the opposition guessing
Tierney, Nwaneri, NBO, Setford, Kabia, M'Hand, Nichols...Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I also wouldn't have loaned out Vieira, or certainly would have brought him back in January
Apparently Timber may not be fit for Weds, White got burned a few times today, don't fancy 90 mins of that v PSG
And you’re not a football manager (and probably for good reason too….not to say I’d be any better)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
The reason Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri were promoted was because they were ear marked as being top players, a lot of the others on the bench only make the bench because of how thin the squad is
And even with those two, it’s buttressed by them being surrounded by first team players. If you have a team of half fringe players and half academy players it’s the blind leading the blind
Don’t get me wrong Arteta doesn’t rotate enough, but there’s degrees and when Claudio Ranieri was called the Tinkerman it wasn’t a moniker of respect (and ironically the biggest thing he won in his career was done with a largely settled XI week in, week out)
That rather illustrates my point somewhat doesn’t it. Apart from Nwaneri who I’ve already said id have played…the only fringe player who you’ve listed is Tierney, the rest are all Hale Enders who have next to no first team experience (and I can’t help but feel that they only appear on the bench because of the amount of injuries we have, they are the unintended).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Excellent result. Because we also did badly in our other games before CL matches, it means we'll do really well on Wednesday. Bloody glad we didn't win this. It wouldn't do to carry a string of wins into the most important game of the season. Far better we are off form, losing matches.