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Wenger coaches the team not the board, Wenger's tactics suck, I mean what coach of any so called Top Team would go to Man United with a patched up team running around like headless chickens? Zero tactics from Wenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirjackofwilshere
We'll only get our Arsenal back when Wenger and the board fuck off. The board are only worried about their shares and couldn't give a shit about our club, while Wenger has lost the plot completely, doesn't understand tactics and cares more about his "youth project" than he does for Arsenal FC.
As everyone keeps on saying. The board are responsible - if they won't sack the manager, do you expect AW to go on his own accord.
Well Sagna, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Wilshire, Song & Gervinho are arguably the only first choice players missing from our team, you could argue that United had Rafael, Rio, Vidic, Carrick, Valencia & Fletcher missing from their team.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Our squad sucks, it sucked before we sold 3 important first team players and sucks even more now. I honestly have no idea what is going on at the club at the moment, it's truly sad though.
This is incredible. I thought the ref would eventually help mutd, but that wasn´t necessary. I never thought I´d see such a game from an Arsenal side. Where´s the long term project? Six years of "patience" to get to this stage where there is not even a competitive football team? Even in the ideal case where the current best possible squad is back together and try to bring some dignity, it will only take a single suspension or injury to badly fuck everything up again.
One of the "youth" is still here though, Djourou, but I think the only significant thing he´s done since being at Arsenal is dying his hair with that ridiculous orange. What a sad idiot.
I can see again that some are trying to turn this into another blame game as with the poll thread. The board have LITTLE to do with this. We simply do not know how to defend. The board do not do player selection or training or tactics. This has been an ongoing problem since the invincibles. Our coaching is suspect and has been for years. Gary Cahill, Samba, et al will not improve things. Wenger needs to go or the coaching team needs booting out, preferably both. Our players do not know how to react in given situations and our midfield allow runners to pass them by like statues. We need Bould to take over the defensive coaching ASAP
Wenger: “We are close to signing a striker at the moment but we are still looking for a midfielder and a defender”
Wenger: “The players who were out today was too many. We didn’t expect to have all these players out. It is too many”
Wenger: “I am very open to signing players if we find players who can strengthen the team. We have a lot of people working on that”
Wenger: “We have to sort out our problems and, at the moment, not speak too much”
Park seems to be our striker and he's only after another 2 signings... Fuck me.
Didn't wolves or someone purposely make 10 changes to their first 11 against United and only narrowly got beat 2-1? And Wenger still manages to find excuses for that performance, tiredness, players missing etc. Why he took off Cocquelin I have no idea - we were never going to win that game - but at least we looked semi-decent with him holding in midfield.
I would 8 2 be an Arsenal fan right now...
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just speechless. dont know what to say really,
i dont care about wenger anymore but if arshavin plays one more game for this club i will kill someone
Worth remembering that is was Djoruou, one of the more senior players who fucked up at the start to begin the rout.
When you have guys like that to rely on, our kids don't fucking stand a chance.
NO. IF WE HAD EVERYONE FIT, AND AVAILABLE, WE COULD STILL SIGN 8 PLAYERS BEFORE RUNNING UP OUR FA SQUAD LIMIT!! (assuming Alumina and Bendtner are off)Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Sczezny--------Fabianski
Sagna----------Jenkinson
Vermaelen------Djourou
Koscielny-------Squillaci
Gibbs-----------Traore
Ramsey---------Rosicky
Song-----------Frimpong
Wilshere--------Diaby
Walcott--------Arshavin
RVP------------Chamakh
Gervinho-------Oxlade-Chamberlain
That second eleven would get relegated.
Park :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Arsenal :rose:
Arsenal fans :pal:
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What an absolute joke we are.
Nothing else to say tbh,
A complete disgrace lower league teams won't be so comprehensively beat at OT. Wenger has to go there can be no defence.
What´s wrong with this site? My post appeared twice, and it´s very hard to enter. Some manc hackers that didn´t have enough fun with their team thrashing us maybe?
Pretty much. There are no excuses. Shite teams who go there will not concede 8 and will probably make them work for a win at the very least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
What chance do the players have when the manager is just as lost as they are.
True, it was the two central defenders who were probably the worst players on the pitch today. United ran rings around both of them, and there was one moment when Cleverly played a give and go with Rooney and Djourou was completely clueless about his position that summed it up tbh.
And yet ******* thinks our defence is fine and just one addition is sufficient.
The first XI isn't much cop either.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesy bites
The defence was a total shambles, Jenkinson did look out of his depth but then the more experienced players around him didn't help at all, he shouldn't have had to play in a game like this at this stage...the fact he had to just shows how incompetent the manager is.
He signed players from lower leagues and expects them to be able to play in games against the Champions even though they've not use to that level.
The offside trap was laughable, it was just so easy to bypass the whole defence, a pub team could have done it to be honest.
Djourou?
Come back Senderos, we forgive you.
GW and Arsenal having a shocker seem to go hand in hand...Quote:
Originally Posted by Elreactor
Merson made a good point that Wenger can't just send any old players out there and expect them the play 'the Arsenal way', with 2 of our back 4 out we had to keep it tighter today. It was embarrassing how easily they got through us today.
Wednesday showed we're not that bad at full strength but we just have to strengthen that squad. Wenger said something about "when you lose signing are always the answer but we had 8 players out today". Well yes, Arsene. But that's WHY signings make a difference 'cos then you can replace players who are out with decent replacements not kids making their debuts.
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HAVE to spend big in the next few days, thank God for the international break, that will hopefully give us time to clear our heads and resume more positively against Swansea.
Our first eleven is top 6 for sure if they stay fit the entire season. But there is no way in Nasricunting hell that would ever happen, so that back up eleven has incredible importance. They really are awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Wengerbabies
i am not going to blame jenkison much, inexpereince made those mistakes, but he is young and talented and will come back stronger.
kos i thought was ok, and chesney really couldnt do much with the goals they were just that good.
dj was crap and so was traoae. ramsey was alright in the middle, was v impressed with colquein given circumstnaces, rosicky was annnoymous and theo was best player. rvp did ok, should have scored pen and a couple of second half chances but not too pissed off at him.
arshavin can fuck off and die the lazy cunt
Quoting forum shocker..Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
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After the ticket price increases, it is clear to see we as fans have been blatantly looted by the board.
Wenger isn't the only one to blame, the board are equally as responsible.
The club has been robbed guys. The shareholders are richer than ever, the whole shooting match has been flogged to a disinterested yank who obviously couldn't give a fuck about what goes on on the pitch. Arsenal is now about property deals, merchandising, ticket prices, entertainment (corporate, not football obviously). The football? Well you watched that for yourself today.
Is this just bad luck? A blip? I don't think anyone can kid themselves any more. This club is going down. Those fucking horrible old misers who have scraped every last penny out of the club, fuck those swine. If they gave a shit about the club they could have reinvested some of that looted money forked out by Stan. But instead they've got together and flogged off even more players. And by the way, the last minute signing of a Cahill or a Jagielka will make virtually no difference. We're always just a couple of injuries away from a hiding like the one we got today. We need 5 or 6 top, top quality players. We have three days to get them. No hope. Not that the money vampires would part with the cash anyway.
People tell me to behave when I say we'll be in the relegation battle this year. Are you so sure we won't? The relegation battle can involve as many as ten team right to the wire. When you see what we saw today, can you name the ten teams we are superior to in this league? Are you relaying on zero injuries and zero suspensions when you make that assessment? Looks like Wenger is, almost as if our recent history simply doesn't exist.
Sacking Wenger won't make and difference either. It will just buy this fucking horrible board more time to carry on their thieving. These cunts need to be exposed and burned out. PHW and his mob? Shit on them. Fucking shit and piss on them.
OMG I totally lost my faith on him. You assume he'll get better with nore games under his belt, but he got worse. Lars Ulrich version of football. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
thank god our next game is Swansea, may only lose by 1 ;-/
Wenger's comment about "in England after a defeat people think signings are the answer" is worrying as well........for some reason he doesn't seem to place any importance on signing quality players and having good backups.
What is the guy on, if he wants to build a team of kids maybe he should go manage the schoolboys!
Incidentally Man U team had the same average age as ours today, so it's not age that's the problem...it's quality!
Djourou is a laughing stock. A fucking horrible player. Clueless, slow, braindead. A shadow of the guy who started last season so well. Maybe it's a confidence thing with him but we cannot afford to play him again this season. I'd rather have Squillaci. At least Squid is funny. Djourou isn't funny at all, not one fucking bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
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1822: What about Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger? "We were very weak in some departments and Man Utd had a lot of class. You always feel humiliated when you concede eight goals," said the Frenchman - but, more pertinently, he is asked if he is going to quit: "No." Has he considered it? "No." Does he have the confidence of his employers still? "Yes, I think so." He went on... "The solution in England is always to buy players, but it doesn't always happen like that."
A million squillion people are trying to moan about Arsenal, the server is struggling a bit. I've not found it too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elreactor
Tbh the traffic right now is pretty unusual, we could look a bumping up the server capacity but I'd suggest that this sort of thing won't happen too often...or maybe it will this season :(
Agreed but we've known our defence is shocking for ages, the options we have aren't up to it....Djourou, Squillaci, Koscielny (he was part of the 8-2 demolition too after all) are all rubbish and have no place at the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Vermaelen is the only CB worth keeping, yet for some reason Wenger seems to think we have 4 good CB's...he really needs to wake up.
It will happen more oftenQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Park Chu Young will lead us to salvation.
It seems he´ll spend big in some unknown korean who will be relied upon to score goals, right? I was hoping that to be just press BS, but it´s true apparently. And the worst part is that Wenger had to get "stealthy" for a signing of this laughable calibre. There´s still time to fuck things even more with this guy, the board, or whatever combination that made all this possible. Well, maybe they think the worst has passed, being murdered 2-8 by former arch-rivals, and there´s still hope of beating the lower profile teams in the PL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Oh yes, 3 million well spent....last of the big spenders and all that :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Don't forget we have Squillaci coming back from injury and he will be like a new signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Of course, we don't need new players as we have 8 players out and when they return they will be like new signings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker