He's old enough and experienced enough to avoid being fooled by our coaching. Surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
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He's old enough and experienced enough to avoid being fooled by our coaching. Surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Sol Campbell knew to boot it clear. If things are dodgy in the area, just get the ball the hell away so the opposition can't score. Leave the fancy ball tricks to the forwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Good and important win. Olympiacos were better than expected. Better composure second half and 3 points with a makeshift team. I call that progress.
Don't stand under the other shoe when it drops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
I was thinking more overall quality than recent form. I will re-evaluate them once the season is over, by which time maybe Cheznut will have overtaken them (in my view).Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Well, our coaching killed one of the best players in Europe at the time of signing - Arshavin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
There is no antidote to Wengeritis.
I don't think Wenger can 'coach' simple technique and two-yard passes out of players.
After all, isn't that his specialty?
Arshavin's shitness is down to Arshavin.
It's Wenger's fault for playing him though.
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We all saw how good Arshavin was when we first got him then he had a full pre season under Wenger and Wengeritis was detected the following season
I thought it was pies that killed Arshavin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
What has Joe Hart shown in overall quality though? He's been around only a little longer than Szczesny and our keeper does everything better than him.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Verminator
Reina has been poor for a while.
Of course, it will take the media another five years to realise that they are not 'faultless'.
Or perhaps they never will, as generalisations and cliches are preferable to fact.
Unimpressed
A good three points none the less.
As usual midfield did not help defend on the break.
Toothless in attack.
nothing to do with him not running, turning up to pre season overweight? thats wengers fault too. if he doesnt run on the pitch or put effort in, no amount of coaching will make him do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Santos also looks like he's been on the pies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wengers fault that Arshavin doesnt take players on anymore and plays the pass, pass, pass boring BS that we do these daysQuote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
But he has nice tights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
He doesn't do either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Well he does, but fails spectacularly whilst attempting to.
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Wengers influence.
He used to fo it fine when he first came.
Wengeritis has done its work well
Good win for us in the context of the group. Very impressed with Chamberlain, hope to see him start more for us in coming weeks.
Arteta was quality as well.
Chamakh, Rosicky and Arshavin were beyond dire, while our defense (Mertesacker apart) was abysmal. Spurs will love playing against that shower of shite.
You said he doesn't take players on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
I said he does.
You've changed the goalposts of what constitutes Wengeritis.
Good WUMming :good:.
Asharvin is not someone who is effective on the wing in a 433, he was awsome in a 442 on the wing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
He also changed completely mentally after Russia failed to make the world cup and since then his confidence has gone completely and he actually looks lost out their at times.
Wenger is at fault for alot of this, and he should try and use Asharvin in other ways to see if he can bring back the spark....under that fat there is a world class footballer just not sure we will ever see that player again
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr
Don't think Chakma was that bad.
For a start, I actually noticed he was on the pitch.
Nowhere near bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Had a good game. Just needed a goal to top it off
Missed two sitters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Says it all, I'm afraid.
I said he doesnt take them on ie he tries but fails which he hardly did when he first came.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Wengers fault
Considering he didnt have any sitters in the game, thats impressiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Boss
Be careful what you wish for with Wenger. Last time he tried Arshavin in a different role it was as the lone striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr
This is Pat Rices viewQuote:
on the performance…
I think in the first 20-25 minutes we were really in it well. After that for about 15-20 minutes we maybe lost our way and they came back into it. Second half we had to knuckle in, fight and get our shape right which I thought we did better in the second half.
on Arsenal's goals…
It is unfortunate we didn't get the third but we also had opportunities on breakaways in the second half. They came, they waited for us, they broke us up in the middle of the park and in fairness they did well. You can't turn around and say we had all of the game because that would be unfair.
Needless to say I think we will be very, very happy with the three points.
on Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain…
He can go inside, he can go outside, he's got that injection of pace and I think what he needs now is to be consistent in his play. I am sure that is something he will be working on because he's certainly not a stupid boy. He has good people around him and they are telling him all the right things.
He is a very confident boy, a strong boy and he listens to what people tell him. I think he makes his own mind up because when you are a professional footballer loads of different coaches tell you lots of different things. What you have to do is pick out the best things that are applicable to you. That is something Alex will no doubt actually do. He is very friendly with Theo and no doubt he will give him the benefit of his experience as well.
From Arsenal supporters' point of view, they are going to be seeing a lot of this boy. Whenever he breaks in permanently he has a big, big challenge to now get in front of Theo. I know that Theo is a very strong-willed guy as well and he won't give in easy. It all bodes well for England anyway.
on a nervous night for himself…
I said before we played Dortmund that it is not the kind of evening I particularly want. It's never actually been an ambition in my career to be a manager. I'm quite happy being a coach. But when decisions go against the manager, which in my personal opinion wasn't right, we have just got to get on with it.
on defensive performance…
I thought that in general they battled very hard. I think that as we went into the second half we were tighter in the second half than we were in the last 20 minutes of the first half. People can have the ball right and left but it wasn't really causing us too many problems. They have actually got a lot of the ball but in actual terms of what Szczesny has had to save I don't think there was all that many chances.
on the goal conceded…
It was soft, yes. From a defender's point of view it was really poor.
on Robin's omission…
Robin's been playing a lot of games lately and it was just a question of Chamakh needing games. We just thought that we would give him a go. You can't say that Marouane didn't try. If he had a little bit more luck he perhaps might have scored a third goal. But you cannot fault him for his work ethic.
on Olympiacos' performance…
I thought Olympiacos played very, very well and whenever we go over there to play, one would like to think we would have qualified.
on whether Oxlade-Chamberlain & Walcott could play together...
What you have to do is see whether the two of them can compliment each other - that is something I don't know, the manager does not know and the England manager does not know either because we have not seen them together.
You can think as much as you like, but until it actually happens you are only formulating an opinion of your own. All good players can play together.
on Tottenham...
That is a completely different ball game at Tottenham The most important thing for us was to win, because it takes us closer to qualifying. We will think more about the Tottenham game when we all get together again on Friday. I am losing track of time - when you get older, that is what happens to you!
Pat Rice. :bow:
Unbeaten Arsenal manager.
Word on the street is he was the mastermind behind the Invincibles but then Wenger took full control and the rest as they say is history. not true obviously
A mix of decent play at times with worrying defensive frailty at others. I thought the effort was generally good though and Mertesacker was excellent. Sagna was a bit shaky at times which is unlike him. Chamakh...well, he did his best and put the effort in.
Rubbish. One of the best players in Europe? Behave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
One of the best at pie eating contests maybe.
Didn't catch the match today but a much needed win nonetheless, glad to see Oxo is already delivering on his potential...puts others to shame, but talent shines through.
Decent start in the CL, I think the group stages were always going to be OK for us to get through looking at the other teams, it's once we get to the knockout stages we should worry.
Are Olympiakos that side that struggle to ever win away in the CL btw?
Decent game from Chamakh. Needs to score but he looked more sharp. Did well to create space for Ox's goal, should have had an assist with that nice pass and should have scored with a header and that chance that fell to his left foot. When he went off for RVP it was noticable. RVP hardly touched the ball and coudn't get involved with the link up play.
Chamberlain got his debut goal. Good run and finish with his left. Could have scored a second but the keeper rad the chip. Look comfortable on the ball but can't leave Sagna that exposed down the flanks.
Santos looked good as well. Arshavin was no help to him down the flanks but he looked more solid on defence in the second half. I like his runs forwards, he can dribble and also has an eye for the pass or cross. Strong as well and won't get bullied easily.
Merts was impressive. Calm at the back, read the game well, dealt with what ever came his way, didn't dive in... Good game. Just a shame that the overall display of the defence. Sagna was poor, but Oxlade left him exposed a bit, dame goes for the opposite side with Arshavin. He shouldn't be starting games for us when he plays like this. Really poor. But, I'll cut him some slack because a few weeks ago he looked sharp and dangerous.
Not impressed with Arteta, Frimpong or Ramsey. Rosicky was the best of our midfield players and he should have stayed in the centre. His first touch, passing and movement was on point and better than the rest of his peers. Arteta just isn't involved in the build up play, Ramsey is just hit and miss and Frimpong had no authority. We need to sort the middle out. Roles need to be definded quickly.
to me our midfielders left our back four too exposed especially on the franks as Frimpong did quite well in the holding role. Sagna had to understand he couldn't venture forward as much as he did, but Chambo and Arshavin helped very little and so did Rosicky in the middle.
Arteta had a good game, starting to make us tick and dictating tempo. Merts is very dependable: 5 times he played for us, 5 times I've seen him play like this. No-nonsense, uncimpromosing, solid.
Chamakh didn't play as bad as he does..I mean..I even noticed he was on the pitch, but missed a golden chance to make it 3-0-
Good win. We were caught out a few times at the back and for once its not the CD's who were responsible. Oxo and frimpong in particular and guilty of loosing procession and misplaced passed. Frimpong and Sagna getting out muscled on a few a occasions as well. Song was really good at the back and it was his long ball from the deep finding Oxo for the first goal. My MOTM. Santos seemed to gain confidence and improved in attack and defense as the game wore on and took the goal well. While it is unfashionable to say so thought Chamakh had a good game in a long time -few poor finishes but put in a solid shift. Arteta did his usual solid, good passing the few times he misplaced a pass came back to recover it and the goal line block of what looked like a certain goal was not his only defensive contribution great buy by the looks. Rosicky another unfashionable player while not being outstanding looks better in that position than Ramsey has done. Arshavin was poor in the match bar few attempts at running at the defenders on the counter. Frimpong was poor as was Sagna unusually. Oxo had a mixed game. I thought the substitutions were imagination and conventional keeping up with our business strategies. A match coming up with spurs in the weekend and you bring in three players who are either injury prone or have just returned from big injuries in a match were the opposition was running the players ragged and out muscling this was surprising as was not getting in the Coquelin who's energy could have been put to use
I thought Santos had a good game, seems confident on the ball and makes clever runs with a decent final ball too. Seemed to defend well as well and looks capable of handling the physical game.
AOC played well, but was a bit naive defensively, he needs to learn that side of the game a bit more. Didn't track runs when Sagna was caught out of position or double teamed.
Didn't see Arshavin before we signed him then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
don't you start with that shit. you're better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Was a genuine question. He was awesome for Zenit and Russia in 2008 and the talk of Europe. It was considered quite a coup when we got him but for one reason or another he turned into the fat fuck we see today.