The Board and Wenger are dancing to the same tune. Wenger is no victim and that image of him being helpless can be laid to rest.
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The Board and Wenger are dancing to the same tune. Wenger is no victim and that image of him being helpless can be laid to rest.
ThirdedQuote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
yes and no but its was PHW who more or less stuck two fingers up to the fans/Shareholders again to seems at least Wenger was honestQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Meaningless garbage. We want numbers and facts. And we are not getting numbers and facts because of this:
Why? What difference does it make to remain 'united'? Wenger won't say exactly what the board are doing or how much money he has available to strengthen the squad because they want to present a 'united' front. Sometimes an under-performing player needs to be strung out in public to show that there are consequences. This obsession with 'class' (as he calls it) has gone on far too long. Everyone knows that everything's not right at the club - he, himself, says everything's not right. There is absolutely nothing classy in the fake smiles.Quote:
The Arsenal manager added: "To stay at the top, top level we have to stay united.
"That does not mean not I am not to be criticised, or the board — we accept that, but we have to show to the outside we are united. If you are not, then you have no chance."
No. That's not how it works. They need to show it - a massive performance on Sunday with every player seen to scrap for every 50/50 and run themselves to the ground for 90 mins regardless of the result.Quote:
These players are ready to fight. Trust us.
It really isn't. The 'discontent' stems from the fact that we still don't know how to deal with a basic set-piece. We don't need four £20m defenders to be able to do that. We need proper management and organisation to make the best of what we have.Quote:
"I can see a lot of fear and discontent among you — and I can understand that because we live in a world where we fight with people who have extremely high resources.
We are getting a politician's answers. Honesty clearly has no place here.
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Originally Posted by Syn
Same old same old tbh
Hmmm...thin line there. PHW was honest as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Wenger might as well have just said, "ain't shit changing round here, back my philosophy, you're free to bitch and moan...well it ain't free...but you know what I mean...we need you're funds/support."
But he just went about it in a nicer way. Nothing is changing and that might as well be a two fingers up as well.
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
Like i said, same old shit
Yeah i Guess, NQ was right the board just seem intent on making more money for themselves. Wengerless or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Why is that shocking? You think they came into this lose money and go bust?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I work for a very stingy company. They are mean bastards. But if I go to my boss and tell him our department needs new PC's because the current lot are slow and keep crashing, I expect my boss to speak to the powers at be to invest in new models and let them know that it will boost morale and efficiency. I don't expect to come back with some keep the faith shit, trust me and work harder. He should be fighting for the workers interest and benefits. With Wenger, it's like he has his priorities all messed up.
Also apparently for the first time ever there was no Q&A section at the end.
Bastard fans ask too many awkward questions.
Sounds like an episode of Little Britain and Computer Says Noo..Quote:
Originally Posted by @timpayton
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Originally Posted by @ArsenalGent
Yeah because give 20 grand for laptops and give 200 million to buy players are the same thing, but i get what you mean, there is no way to know what wenger asked for unless you was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Who's to know what your boss would do its easy to say he'd fight but he may feel as he is payed by these lot and we are in a reccission he will back them for job safety.
If he's backing them for job safety then he's just as guilty and I'd be looking to jump ship. I can understand why our players want out if they see this sort of behaviour on a daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
At least he hasn't ruled out shooting himself in the head, so I still have hope.Quote:
Hill-Wood in response: "I am sorry to disappoint you but I have no intention of standing down. I regard it as a privilege to be chairman."
fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
So in summary: "No, we won't put any money in. Yes, we want all your money." Nothing new or surprising here. Well maybe one, Stan's hint that something perked his interest in football and Arsenal in particular when previously there was no interest at all. Wonder what it could have been?
This sort of thing worries me. It's like how they're no longer giving out the attendance figures as they're getting lower and it was increasingly farcical them reading out 60,000 people when thousands hadn't turned up but were still being counted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
These people should be accountable and increasingly sticking two fingers up at the fans who, one way or another, are paying their wages.
There are only 2 significant shareholders now, soon to be 1. The rest of the executive is there by the grace of Stan, a bloke who knows fuck all about football. It's not surprising things have changed considerably. The slimy cunt knows the majority of the fans won't abandon the club. What else matters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
The pies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It's all about the pies.
Nomonomnom.
PHW is a tw*t and always has been, I dream of the day someone like Dein get's involved again and throws this good for nothing dinosaur out of the club....his contempt for the fans is unbearable.
At the end of the day only the fans walking and demaning he leaves will get rid of this chump.
Dein is Wengers best mate so hes the last person we need.
Agree on PHW though
Dein introduced Stan Kronke as well. Dein is the reason why he's interested in Arsenal and football now.
But I think Dein coming back would be good for the club. Wenger has really gone down hill since Dein left.
One of my biggest regrets other than not seeing us score a goal at Emirates was not being able to taste the pie. KK didnt leave his seat early enough, the brown c... :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
What match did you go watch?Quote:
Originally Posted by FakeYank
Arsenal-Chelsea, 3-0 loss, season before lastQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Arsenal-City, 0-0, season before last again
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Originally Posted by FakeYank
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...-arsene-wengerQuote:
Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood has vowed to back manager Arsene Wenger in the transfer market to help the Gunners challenge for trophies.
Hill-Wood, however, has promised not to break the current business model that has made the Gunners one of the most profitable clubs in the Premier League.
The north London side have faced criticism in the past for not investing in quality on the field and for letting their top stars leave although over the summer Wenger splashed the cash bringing in a number of new faces to the Emirates.
Hill-Wood said at Arsenal’s Annual General Meeting that he will continue to back the manager and that the club still have the aim of competing for titles: "The provision of funds to invest in the team, which we did in the summer, we will do again.
"Let me make it clear that we are all seeking on-the-field success.
"Our goals are to compete for various titles and be in the Champions League, which we have done for 14 years. It remains our focus.
"We remain committed to our self-sustaining model, convinced that this is the right way forward for the club. It means our future is in our own hands."
He's such a cunt. We made a fucking profit the last transfer window. Yeah, I'm bloody sure they are willing to do it again.Quote:
The provision of funds to invest in the team, which we did in the summer, we will do again.
Well thats enough about Wenger, what about PHW the Fat Controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Have we actually ever made a loss instead of profit under Wenger? Hasn't this always been the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We've never been "under" Wenger in terms of finances, he's the manager not the accountant or one of the directors. Under those bastards, we've made losses in the past but they key point is - they haven't. It's always been a bumper pay-day for those cunts, right up until they struck the mega-load. I could even live with that, but having the cunts hanging around telling the fans to fuck themselves is a little too much.
Wenger is telling you to get behind the system and support it. He's riding the gravy train as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Did someone say 'Groovy Train'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In75rgGsp4A&ob=av3e :cool:
They're all on the gravy train, players, the staff and the cunts in the boardroom alike. But not all are in the blacked out luxury compartment with the silver service and whores on tap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
This is what you need: http://www.arsenalreport.com/transfercentre/Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Lists all our transfer spend back to 96-97.
In summary:
Emirates Era ~ Total £27,836,200
2011/2012 £12,388,200
2010/2011 -£8,914,000
2009/2010 £28,020,000
2008/2009 -£20,832,000
2007/2008 £17,640,000
2006/2007 -£466,000
Highbury Era ~ Total -£37,627,000
2005/2006 £395,000
2004/2005 -£3,936,000
2003/2004 -£15,046,000
2002/2003 -£2,210,000
2001/2002 -£18,976,000
2000/2001 £3,400,000
1999/2000 £8,630,000
1998/1999 -£9,780,000
1997/1998 -£1,064,000
1996/1997 £960,000
In short, yes we have made losses under Wenger, and no this has never been the case.
Wow...the tightening of the purse strings is quite clear from that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
But aside from transfer fees, the biggest problem for us is competing with other clubs on wages offered. Some people here are annoyed we didn't bid a bit more for Mata...like there's a chance in hell he'd pick us over Chelsea. If we were able to offer top wages, we'd be able to make the type of signings that Liverpool make (who are able to attract names such as Torres and Suarez).
This summer was horrendous though. We had an amazing opportunity to rip everything up and start again. A change of system and a change in style. If we had used the Cesc-Nasri-Clichy money properly we'd be in a much more promising position.
PHW - "That's how we roll, bitches" :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
So we have made losses. But look at the early days. He was able to build a title winning side without spending much money. He earned his rep with the Board. In 10 years only a loss of £37m! This has always been the plan. We built te youth academy to support this plan. Oh wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
Before the era of Ambramovich and billionaire owners, it was a different (much easier) ball game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Also worth noting the £10m+ paid for someone like Henry at that time is very different than paying £10m for a player right now. Inflation in football teams has spiralled.