Worked hard last night, and provided a few decent knock downs, but didn't have the support. Needs to play two up, but with someone who can feed off him. But isn't up to the pace of English Football. His legs don't work quick enough.
Think he's a decent player, but not one good enough for the pace we play the game at.
Not his fault, and can't fault his effort either; But at a time where we need decent cover we need back up we can rely on, and if he can't provide, we need to be brutal.
He's a decent player but not at this level IMO and probably not in the Premiership.
He could do a job at a mid-table French side.
Lay off to AOC in the first half was excellent though. Just hasn't got the pace. And we just don't play the sort of game that requires a striker to be back to goal all the time.
If we had an Ian Wright type thing going, it'd be perfect for him. But the game just isn't played that way.
First half there were some good moments from him but overall he doesn't offer enough.
Shame, 'cos he started brightly and if he could regain that form he'd be a useful backup.
Like Bordeaux where he won the league and he had a great season both domestically and in Europe? He had the likes of Gourcuff supplying him then. Now its Benayoun :lol:Play him with RVP, let him have a run in the team and he'll be fine. The 4-5-1/4-3-3 has been a failure and its time to go back to basics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
How can we play that though? We'd get overrun in midfield....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
He scored 10 goals in 38 league games and made 1 assist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Overall he scored 16 goals in 52 games and made 1assist. Not terrible stats but hardly setting the world alight.
He's not as bad as some people on here are making out but he's never been a prolific goalscorer. 16 is the most he's ever got in a season.
Buy better midfielders? :shrug:The only reason we started playing the 3 in midfield was to protect Cesc who was shit in a 2. Well he's long gone to spread his failing disease at Barca so no need to play it anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by LDG
If it's about quality, then why does everyone play with a 5....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
The only way I could see it working, is if RVP were to drop into Midfield and play as an ultra deep lying striker...
Behave sweetheart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
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Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr
We're not changing our formation for Chamakh. It's Chamakh that needs to change. The fanny shits himself in front of goal which typifies the poncy garbage that we are trying to cull. I'm happy with the yoof in the squad right now...there's a change in the type of youngsters we're signing. None of this Vela, Merida 'need some time to toughen up' rubbish - they need to be able to compete physically straight away. And it seems we've got promising players coming through in many positions. Jenko, Dench, Coq, Chez, Ryo, Chambers...won't even include Wilshere as 'yoof' because he's one of the best players in the league - but no 'Dench' equivalent to the striking position. Joel Campbell? In either case, need a player who doesn't mind sitting on the bench and can put the ball in the net when called upon. It won't be anybody established like Podolski.
Wenger's strengths in the transfer market seem to have reversed...not long ago we were saying he could spot good attacking players but has a blindspot for good defenders. A defence containing Santos, Koscielny, Vermaelen looks as strong as it has for many years. Now he can't find a decent striker. Another Eduardo will do as long as he promises not to dive against the Scots.
Chamakh wasn't horrendous yesterday though. Wasn't too good either.
No we shouldn't change our formation for just one player no matter who it is. We should change it cos this one we have right now has failed and badly. We are languishing in 6th/7th wherever for a reason.
Because of a horrific start resulting from the debacle of a transfer window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Since that start we have been one of the form teams in the EPL and Europe and Chamakh hasn't contributed to that at all.
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Originally Posted by Ach
We're not in the top 4 because City have bought their way in, Spurs have had an excellent start and we've had a poor one.
Before last night our run was P15 W12 D2 L1. You don't go on that kind of run if your formation is failing badly.
Even with Nick in the team last night we would have won it. But we had Chamakh so we lost. That's the bottom line. Why so many people think it's okay to have a striker with zero pace, zero ability in front of goal and zero clue how the game is played in this country after a year trying to learn is a bit of a mystery. Denilson was slaughtered for being 20 times the player this Chamakh guy is. But Chamakh gets a pass because he runs around 2 yards behind the play. I could do that but who would want me up front in a professional football team. Worst player we've ever had and when he leaves, which surely he has to soon, we'll be stronger even if we don't replace him because at least he won't be on the pitch.
Ok so he was not as bad as i made out, but he was frustrating per usual, to me the guy should be ready now, maybe i expect too much from him tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
Not like you to backtrack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
This is why we need to by another world class Striker/CF in Jan. This is what you get when you buy cheap or get a freebie tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We all make mistakes lolQuote:
Originally Posted by LDG
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The formation excuse for Chamakh doesn't wash. If you're good enough you should be able showcase your ability regardless, I'm more inclined to sympathise with Bendtner who was alienated on the right, than Chamakh who is at least being played up top.
The guy has no spark about him and is on par with Heskey in terms of what he brings to the side.
Good season he miight have had don't mean he was ever world class, Last season he played with Nasri and Cesc one of the best Midfielders in the world and he still was not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
it don't matter which midfilder you put him with he won't be good enough in this league. The french league is where he belongs and should have gone in the summer.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
No Zimm is only ever negative about everything, hence he is seen to turn out to be right when something goes wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by FakeYank
Oh and Chamakh is fucking terrible, its scary that if RvP gets injured we have him, Park (whos clearly not PL standard yet, but am willing to give time) and Fatshavin. Thats bad, we need a striker in Jan surely?
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Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
Afobe would have scored two hat-tricks last night.
But he's injured, of course.
I'm afraid that's completely wrong, whilst there's hasn't been that much that I have liked about the club in recent years, RVP, Wilshere, Oxo, Ramsey amongst a handful of others I have praised and been happy with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog Toffee
Chamakh was one player who I just didn't see as the answer for us, fact is we needed someone who could put the ball in the net and based on what I'd seen of him this guy liked to hang out outside the box and when he did score they were generally very simple chances that were harder to miss.
Noone agreed with me then and now people like you find other reasons as to why my opinion isn't valid, well done :good:
It could be argued by some that I haven't been totally sold on Chamakh either.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
The difference is that you were prepared to give him the benefit of 1 or 2 games before slagging him off. You don't even come close to the visionary genius of ItsGee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Another difference is when a player he thought wouldn't do well (Koscielny) does, he doesn't mind giving him credit. Probably because he's not a child.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
Tbh, the playing of favourites on this board is a ridiculous.
Being proven right takes precedence over any kind of balanced assessment.
There's no reason why, if a player plays well or badly you don't just call it as you see it, not trying to defend a position. Takes a bigger man to hold his hands up.
Now that's a good post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
I think we'll do fuck all this year and finish outside the top 4. Chamakh will also continue to stink the place up.
Do I care if I'm proven dead wrong? Hell no.
I'm an optimist, it's my most attractive feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
I'm going to taunt you until you beg for it to stop if you are wrong with any of those predictions. And I don't mean just on here - I'll be around at your house.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOre Letters to Santa
Nah Zimm knows, he knows, kudos to the ladQuote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
it makes me laugh how ach defends chamkah and says he is great player and its wengers fault that he doesnt play or whatever yet when a player has been one of the best players this season in the whole league, he says he is utter shit.
proof that he has no idea what a good footballer is
And it makes me laugh how obsessed you seem to be over what i say.
That Bendy vs Chamakh thread isn't so ridiculous now, is it? Some of you bastards owe me an apology! :lol:
Chamakh was never right the right player for us. A cog in the wheel and the epitome of what was wrong with our style of play. He is Tippy Tappy. He's no good in the air and hardly scores with his head, he doesn't shoot, he avoids making runs into the box and just shuffles about on the edge of tr box, his passing is basic, he's soft and gets pushed around....never liked him.
Saying that, I thought he's have a good game against City and started well but faded badly. He has no place in our squad. All that talk of him adding an extra dimension to our game...never agreed with that. He epitomises the bad stuff. The annoying stuff. He's possession play with no end product. He has to go and all can see that now. His credits done! Time to hang it up.
Bendy was inconsistent but he had every right to feel insulted.
Of course. If you are proven right, there is no need for balanced assessment as you already know the truth. :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann