Wenger Out?

Josh is not the same poster as me, if the mods are suspicious just compare our IP Addresses.

The simple fact is some people are getting excited based on a run of 5 wins in a 2 month period. This is the shortest of short term trends, and using this to claim that we've turned the corner is naive.

The sceptical fans are criticising Wenger based on the pattern that has been followed over the last 7 YEARS. Even in past seasons we've had these purple patches (remember us beating Man Utd and Chelsea in 08-09 in November, despite that season being hugely disappointing)

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Originally Posted by JoshGooner

I might be new to Goonersweb, but rest assured I'm in no way new to forums so feel free to throw the cards pal(s). Also I think I might have been a gooner whilst some of ya'll were still in diapers.

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Sorry i don't speak Americanonian


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Originally Posted by Flavs

Sorry i don't speak Americanonian


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Good for u, now on with ur Wenger 'arse' sucking pal

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Originally Posted by JoshGooner

Say whatever you like, but if more of you were like me and demanded more of AW and the squad instead of accepting excuses after excuses, I'm pretty certain we wouldn't all be here bemoaning out empty trophy cabinet.

Ps I might be new to Goonersweb, but rest assured I'm in no way new to forums so feel free to throw the cards pal(s). Also I think I might have been a gooner whilst some of ya'll were still in diapers.

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Why do you keep quoting my same post :unsure:

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Originally Posted by LDG

It reminds me of the old crowd at highbury when we were playing shit, and had our backs against the wall. We'd just come out fighting, and it great to see from fans and players alike.

If there is one thing I could say to this team right now, it's "never forget this period. Never forget just how much wanting to win at all costs bears fruit and gets the fans on your side. If you want to win anything, ever, you can never be complacent, and 100% is the only way".

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Originally Posted by Letters

Ollie!
If we'd lost then it would have been us bottling it and crumbling under pressure.
But we won so obviously there wasn't any.
Next time we lose it'll be us bottling it. Till then there's no pressure on any game.

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Absolutely. I don't really understand it because the same people claim that the club believe 4th is our trophy and our target. So if we're competing in key games to make that target, surely there would be more pressure?

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Originally Posted by Joker

Josh is not the same poster as me, if the mods are suspicious just compare our IP Addresses.

The simple fact is some people are getting excited based on a run of 5 wins in a 2 month period. This is the shortest of short term trends, and using this to claim that we've turned the corner is naive.

The sceptical fans are criticising Wenger based on the pattern that has been followed over the last 7 YEARS. Even in past seasons we've had these purple patches (remember us beating Man Utd and Chelsea in 08-09 in November, despite that season being hugely disappointing)

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you are playing quite badly away from home - that defeat to swansea hasn't helped.

tevez should be back soon, so plenty to be excited about

Sorry about the quoting sir, effects of posting from a blackberry

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Originally Posted by Letters

I don't remember him ever saying that.



Well, no we weren't. We were 7th after 3 months, 3 points off of 3rd place (that was on 19th November, just over 3 months in). We were low down very early in the season after our car crash of a start but so what? Surely it matters where you finish, not where you are after 5 games or whatever.

The rest of your post makes some sense (apart from the bit about writing off 6 points to Utd, before this season they'd done the double over us 2 years ago but that's the only time I could see for a long time, we beat them at the tail end of last season). Are there better managers out there? Well yes, there probably are. But I don't think there are that many and unless we pick a new manager very carefully I'd say there's a good chance we'll get worse after Wenger, not better.

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So Wenger not mouthing the exact words i said means he never said he believes this team will make progress in the near future. Are we in a court of law here?. I suppose contrary to what I have said, Wenger has actually promised us that next year will be worse or just as bad as this. Sheesh!. You Wenger apologists simply wont hear anything against him and in his defence you resort to nitpicking words and nuances. So we were never 15th this season at a time when Manu were already in the top 5. How are you going to finish first when you habitually give more than capable opposition a 10 point head start. I suppose wonderful Wenger can probably climb Everest with one hand and no rope While Fergie straps on the GPS laden equipment.

I can see that us fans are split in 2 distinct groups. 1 who think we are basically punching above our weight and great things should actually be beyond us and those who think footie is played on the park with equal number of players and a capable set of people working in the background. It is disingenious to think what we say on thees boards is irrelevant. it probably is, since disgruntled fans have existed long before the internet. it however does not make it less salient the way the game makes each and everyone of us feel.

This team, this club has deficiencies, this is an incontrovertible fact. In 99.9% of other clubs, the manager is where the correction begins. The only question which is what the poll asks is if we want to start with this change or not.

no need to be so rude.

it's only the internet after all and i'm only trying to helpfully guide you toward the right messageboard for the team you support.

can't a guy get a break around here?

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

no need to be so rude.

it's only the internet and i'm only trying to helpfully guide you toward the right messageboard for the team you support.

can't a guy get a break around here?

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You're not being funny or clever, so kindly STFU. I've been posting on Goonersweb for 6 years, it'd be quite an elaborate hoax to keep up for that amount of time wouldn't it?