The Welbz Thread (official)

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Originally Posted by BOBN

Im not talking about youth development.

Show me their Sanogos and Jenkinsons through Fergusons glory years? Effectively league 1 player very much in and around the first team. They dont suffer fools up there. Those twos feet wouldnt have even touched the ground.

A finished journeyman Flamini would never have been given a 3 year contract, he'd never have signed Silvestre and squillaci. Diaby would be gone, Bendtners contract torn up. Vermalean wouldnt have had a sniff of the captaincy. They do things differently up there.

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You're right in some respects. Fergie had less tolerance for under-performance, and was far more ruthless when a player didn't cut it.

But he's bought his fair share of pony in his time. Made his fair share of poor decisions.

Wenger is guilty of not being ruthless enough. And a top flight club should be more ruthless....but I still admire his trait of wanting to give talent a chance. Diaby is a case in point. If the lad could stay injury free, he'd be a monster, and the player we're all craving.

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

https://mediacru.sh/e4hk-VkJOvPf

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http://youtu.be/emosxCswvDg

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Originally Posted by BOBN

Im not talking about youth development.

Show me their Sanogos and Jenkinsons through Fergusons glory years? Effectively league 1 player very much in and around the first team. They dont suffer fools up there. Those twos feet wouldnt have even touched the ground.

A finished journeyman Flamini would never have been given a 3 year contract, he'd never have signed Silvestre and squillaci. Diaby would be gone, Bendtners contract torn up. Vermalean wouldnt have had a sniff of the captaincy. They do things differently up there.

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Back to Arsenal, I remember in Henrys last year or so thinking it was unnecessary having him. Just as Fabregas, Hleb and Rosicky were coming to the boil. It seemed extravagently wasteful to have such a good striker effectively playing lone striker space-maker/holder-upper for the playmakers in behind him. Inefficient. So it was no suprised when we downgraded to Adebayor. A keener runner (at the time) and a real battering ram. We werent wasting his talents by making him do that, it was what he was good for, and it worked.

Welbeck can be our Adebayor, with the potential to be better as his workrate wont drop and his technique seems more assured.

Can Ozil be our Fabregas?

Time for him to prove hes "the best number 10 in the world". If it doesnt work its on him.

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I agree totally with the tactics and Wenger’s stubborn streak with players. Man Utd have the luxury of being able to splash money on players and then sell them on for a loss if things don’t work out. If Wenger had got it wrong with high profile summer signings, he’d have to stick with them and try to make it work. Berbatov, Kagawa, Nani, Anderson, Kleberson, Djemba Djemb, Veron, Bebe, Forlan….Wenger would have been fired a long time ago if he made such blunders. Fergie has stuck with garbage players but he can also replace them quickly. We wouldn’t be able to replace such players so easily and spend another £30m on another player. That doesn’t excuse his stubborn streak and playing to a players strengths when it’s necessary. His obsession with development and making a complete player means he’ll often force a player to work on his weak areas instead of enhancing the strong points and sometimes it backfires. Tactically narrow minded and stubborn. It’s frustrating.

But back to the original point, I wouldn’t put so much emphasis on Welbeck being a United regular and ‘Fergie’s Gold Standard’. They have players like Ashley Young, Anderson, Nani and Cleverly handing around their squad. They’re not good players but if we signed them we’d just have to hope for the best but let’s not kid ourselves.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-ze...acting-4150792

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It's funny because it's true. :(

Last week, if you offered me Welbeck, I would have laughed, now we have him, I'm actually quite excited to see what he could do. With ozil, ramsey, cazorla, sanchez all feeding him, he'll get 20 goals for us this season

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Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-ze...acting-4150792

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It's funny because it's true. :(

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:lol:

Utd fans upset we've taken one of their players.

How the tables have turned.

They'll have that disgusting feeling in their stomach. Makes it even more sweeter :haha:

My opinion on Wellbeck hasn't changed, never really rated the guy, he's going to need to prove he's good by scoring a decent number of goals.

15 odd goals won't cut it for me, my local hairdresser could get that in our team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xFsioXDkLiQ

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Originally Posted by Özim

My opinion on Wellbeck hasn't changed.

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