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Originally Posted by Özim
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<gritted-teeth>Have to agree, sadly.</gritted-teeth>Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
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Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Post of the week tbh
Nah, nobody ever said that. It's just a few people are against hounding him out of the stadium with sticks and beheading him on the concourse (tit-for-tat exaggeration).Quote:
The doomongers want you to believe that Wenger is so Intrinsic to our existence that any sudden sacking would inevitably lead to our disintegration.
Not only did no-one say that but comparing Rioch (who was NOT sacked mid-season and in any case had only been with us for one season) with Wenger (who has been our manager for 18 years and has been criticised, with some justification, for being too involved in too many aspects of running the club) is ludicrous. You cannot sensibly compare the situations.
We’ve briefly discussed this before and I don’t think Wenger will go any other way. He’s a stubborn character and when he’s challenged on something he gets prickly and bites back. He’ll dig his heels in and keep pressing forward. That’s what’s been happening over the past few years with this team and although we’re seeing slight changes and adjustments, I don’t think it’s enough to stop the tide turning on him. Instead of praise, he’ll just keep on getting criticised from all angles and he’s directly in the firing line now because we can’t use our finances as an excuse and maybe UEFA will come down harder on those breaking the FFP regulations. (maybe). I’m not saying this is how I want him to go. It just seems like this will end like Brian Clough’s reign but not as dramatic. But still a tragic end if things don’t change. Last year with the FA Cup win would have been perfect. If he can someone how replicate that, then fantastic. But can he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I can see where you are coming from .But unfortunately I'm not a fatalistic . I don't believe that something which happened in the past would keep on happening the same way for the sake of it .Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Since the referee didn't do his job properly by sending off Cahill for his dangerous foul on Sanchez it's hard to make me believe we wouldn't have taken advantage of the situation.
I've reached the point where i can no longer have any respect for the facile opinions of BBC Sport, Sky Sports etc, Match of the Day Three for instance talking about the war of words between Mourinho and Wenger saying of Mourinho "he seems like the kind of individual who would take any comment put in his direction with a pinch of salt?"
Are they fucking serious....Mourinho is the most thin skinned individual in the game, these spiteful remarks he has made himself infamous for have come as a result of perceiving insults or criticism at him, the guy is a clinical narcissist everything about his personality suggests this. It's not an insult it just happens to be how the evidence presents itself, Narcissistic individuals often try to undermine the achievements of others around them, they are spiteful and bullying towards those around them and it's based on a deep seated self-loathing which paradoxically represents itself as morbid self love and the need to react defensively and aggressively towards any perceived threat to this.
The amount of ad hominem remarks the guy has made about other managers says it all, if anything i think Mourinho is more irked by Wenger than the other way round.
Because he is in a position where he has so much attention lavished on him it feeds his condition and arguably some aspects of his narcissism makes him effective in the job he does, but ultimately it's a self-destructive malady.
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How does this address the issue that Wenger is no longer fit for purpose but is an anchor dragging the club into mediocrity. If there is an issue all you ever do is misdirect the argument w/o ever addressing the issue at hand. How on earth you can deduce that we are comparing Rioch with Wenger is simply an example of your own delusions. Rioch left Wenger came in mid season, where is the beef?. Nobody is asking for Wenger to be drawn and quartered at the Emirates centre circle. We just wish he would respect the club and stop using it as a smokescreen for his inadequacies. He knows he cannot compete in the real world. Yes the big bad moneyed world of City, United and Chelsea, but we cannot allow him to create his own alternative reality where he wins in his own mind and we celebrate his achievements with him. Even NQ sees the dementia of Wengers tactics and strategic blunders. I surmise that his problem with the Wenger Out campaign is that he resisted it for so long and hates being on the wrong side of history. You on the other hand would rather have a limb amputated than accept that Wenger is weighing us down. Yes you voted for him to leave in this poll (I checked), but again I suspect that it is nothing but arcane, nefarious and malicious misdirection. Kindly go back and reverse your vote.:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Is that really happening?....dragging us down?....yes we haven't pushed on but we are hardly being sucked downwards....yes Wenger isn't the man to take us forward even my Dog who is barely sentient recognises this. But also has any club chelsea aside actually performed that well this season in any event?....seems to me that everyone is dropping points like loose change in a pocket full of holes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner