Horrendous from Bale. :haha:
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Horrendous from Bale. :haha:
Close match so far?
Real struggling against an under-strength Schalke side who are not very good anyway would say they're still in poor form.
Isco skies a good chance.
Ronaldo free-kick straight into the wall.
Platte smashes the bar, Uchida pubs up the rebound!
Marketing are just sleepwalking I think. Their sleepiness is making it a close game - if they turned up for five minutes it'll probably be 0-2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Platte smashes the bar.
:doh:Quote:
Jack Thaler: Tonight's action just goes to show how fantastic the English Premier League is. If they played in the England then Schalke, Basel, and Porto would all be battling relegation. Burnley would wipe the floor with them.
It's probably Phil Neville's alias.
Benzema hauled off, Hernandez on.
Schalke 0-2 Marketing, Marcelo.
Great strike.
Hit 'n' hope tbh.
Federer FC 1-1 Porto, Danilo pel.
Schalke 0-2 Marketing, FT.
Tie over tbf.
Basel 1-1 Porto, FT.
A bit of a faux pas from Monsieur Victim:
Meanwhile, anyone know what happened to the PSG fans who kicked off with mouthy chavs in the city centre? Last I heard le coppers went in with tear gas.Quote:
'These people, these English fans, must be found, punished and locked up. They can't be allowed to get away with it.'
This from the guy who shot the footage. Not hard to figure out who the main culprits are in this incident and I don't mean the idiots on the train who you can easily find at ANY football match across this country and every other country that plays the game.Quote:
I was on my way home from work. I went down on to the platform and the Métro train was pulling in to the platform.
It was very crowded, the train stopped and it was clear there was some trouble, some people shouting, and it was clear these were English people. There was some chanting: “Chelsea, Chelsea.” I didn’t actually know there was a match on.
There were a couple of guys thrown off by the Chelsea supporters. The supporters were insulting them, telling them to fuck off. They were picked on because they were Paris Saint-Germain supporters, wearing scarves. At one point one of the guys threatened to stab a PSG supporter.
They were also throwing small coins at people on the platform. The train had been stopped for two or three minutes; it seemed like the doors had been obstructed.
In one carriage it was mainly Chelsea supporters who were being very loud, and some people were walking off. The doors where they were standing were the only ones open. I got out my phone and started to discreetly film. I have worked as a journalist and was pretty appalled by what I saw.
Then the incident you see in the video happened.
English Racism: Arrests in the Premier League 2013-14
Col 1: Total Arrests by Club - Col 2: Arrests for racist related incidents.
Sunderland 62 - 2
Stoke City 47 - 2
Aston Villa 36 - 2
Arsenal 67 - 1
Newcastle United 50 - 1
Swansea City 9 - 1
Manchester United 112 - 0
Manchester City 71 - 0
Liverpool 58 - 0
Chelsea 56 - 0
Everton 47 - 0
Tottenham Hotspur 42 - 0
West Ham United 37 - 0
West Bromwich Albion 31 - 0
Fulham 24 - 0
Hull City 21 - 0
Crystal Palace 19 - 0
Cardiff City 16 - 0
Southampton 14 - 0
Norwich City 4 - 0
We're in some pretty nasty company there and because we've had ONE incident (which is all it takes), we're officially a racist club. Though not as racist as Sunderland, Stoke and Villa who are twice as racist.
In terms of the Champions League 2013-2014
Football-related arrests (as defined in domestic legislation) relating to supporters of English and Welsh clubs in connection with Champions League, Super Cup
and Europa League matches outside of England and Wales: Total 18 arrests (zero for racist related incidents)
Arsenal 1 arrest, 5 matches
Chelsea 1 arrest, 7 matches
Manchester City 5 arrests, 4 matches
Manchester United 8 arrests, 5 matches
Hmmm, Manchester hooligans! Let me scan the paper and find the reports.
To address Ashton's issues (non-mental ones at least):
Across all of English and Welsh football, racist or indecent chanting:
2012-2013 - 42 arrests.
2013-2014 - 21 arrests. Literally half, although the trend has been roughly 30-40 per year since 2000. So Ashton is little bit completely incorrect. Racism is not spiralling out of control and we are not back to the 80s. Nice try though.
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...ason201314.pdf
If I had to make a judgement I'd say the chavs aren't the biggest problem, the mancs are - topping the chavs in violent disorder, missile throwing, fireworks chucking, public disorder.
As for Arsenal, we excel at public disorder generally related to alcohol. In other words, we can't hold our drink. This is because the average is pushed way up every time Letters attends a match.
Weird.
Nah, Chelsea are definitely the biggest problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I'm not convinced arrest statistics are that telling.
The number of arrests from the incident on the Metro the other night is currently 0.
It may lead to some arrests but only because a video happened to be taken and be splashed all over the news.
The number of arrests from the incident I witnessed while going to an Arsenal vs Chelsea game (some Chelsea knuckle draggers racially abusing some Orthodox Jews who got on the train) was 0. Should I have reported it? Maybe. Would anyone have been arrested? I doubt it.
It isn't 'spiralling out of control', no, and we're not back in the 80s. But there IS a nasty element at Chelsea and sure, we all have our knuckle draggers but from my experience (and that of others I know) it is worse there.
The chant is apparently something they made up to defend their racist captain. So essentially they've trivialized racism.
Disgusting club and fans.
The statistics are more telling than the media editing a video and blowing one incident out of all proportion in relation to what goes on in football generally but to a much lesser degree than this shoddy journalism is suggesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
The one good thing that could come out of it is the front page fuss probably means there are a bunch of thugs shitting it and wishing they could have kept their mouths shut. So maybe in the future thugs will think twice before they act up in public.
But the massively counter-productive side of this is the obnoxious media has again managed to trivialise the nature and scope of racism and distract from the structural racism that is not just present in but actually drives the upper tiers of our society. We can never tackle racism at the root if we keep getting misdirected into the stereotype it is a problem specific to or particularly prevalent in football or among the "ignorant" classes in general. The most harmful forms of racism are practised clinically and to devastating effect by the lads who went to Harrow and Eton. When are they going to get pulled up for it? Racism in all its forms I mean, stuff far, far worse than name calling.
Are you aware of the language our troops use when they go to "war", for instance? We cheer these fuckers in the street when they slink home.
An absolutely ludicrous article from Henry Winter. What a fucking cock.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-football.html
Is he not aware that Call Me Dave is sponsoring a bunch of goons in the Ukraine who model themselves on the Nazis and take great delight in terrorising ethnic minorities in their society, particularly Jews? Will the education Winter is proposing be compulsory for Dave and his gang? I'm afraid changing the name of the Nationalist Socialists to the "Freedom" Party doesn't really cut it Dave. Back to the classroom mate.
Other shoe drops. So now we know what it was all about.
Half way down the "article":Quote:
Chelsea fan Josh Parsons identified from racist Paris Metro train video is pictured with UKIP leader Nigel Farage - as victim tells of his shocking ordeal
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ng-ordeal.html
I see what you did there, Daily Mail.Quote:
There is no suggestion that either was involved in the pushing of the passenger or the racist chanting.
Tuesday 24th February (Champions League Last 16):
Juventus v Borussia Dortmund - 19:45
Manchester City v Barcelona - 19:45
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No Yaya for Citeh, because of his ban. They were completely outplayed by a 10-man Bayern, but pubbed it out and I think that might happen again tonight. Especially with Barca's flimsy record in England. 2-2. Barcelona to win at the Nou Camp.
Dortmund have recovered some form and were strangely doing well in Europe anyway, so I think they'll win at Juventus and come through that tie.
Manchester City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Demichelis, Clichy, Fernando, Milner, Nasri, Silva, Dzeko, Aguero.
Subs: Caballero, Sagna, Mangala, Fernandinho, Lampard, Navas, Bony.
Barcelona XI: Ter Stegen; Alves, Pique, Mascherano, Alba; Busquets, Rakitic, Iniesta; Messi, Suarez, Neymar.
Subs: Bravo, Xavi, Pedro, Rafinha, Sergi Roberto, Adriano, Mathieu.
I'm a a huge Barca fan. For tonight.
Me too. hope Citeh lose 0-5 and Kompany scores three own goals. Dailymail wont know what to write.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
suarez, 0-1
Kompany at fault.
shitty 0-1 bar
Dracula bites!
Messi's turning circle on the ball was about 2 inches. :lol:
Poor old Clichy ran about 5 yards.
Excruciating bore ball from Barca. Worse than us at our worst. And then a nothing header.
It's us!
Have to admit, gypos are a lot better to watch.
Dracula strikes again 0-2 Barca
5 gypo defenders beaten there. They really aren't that good at the back.
shitty :haha:
fuck off you CL wannabes!
Neymar should have made it 3, but he's crap.