He's been sacked from the sounds of it. I wouldn't want him here. 3rd in the league and well out of the title race with Redbull above him. It's pretty underwhelming. I wouldn't trust him at Arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
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He's been sacked from the sounds of it. I wouldn't want him here. 3rd in the league and well out of the title race with Redbull above him. It's pretty underwhelming. I wouldn't trust him at Arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Like Adams? That was well received.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Headline reads, "Borussia Dortmund fire boss Tuchel just TWO DAYS after he guided them to German Cup triumph."Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
After today's meeting, could we see, "Arsenal fire boss Wenger just THREE DAYS after he guided them to FA Cup triumph."
More likely, "Wenger fires board, just ONE MINUTE into crisis meeting."
BBC now running with headline that he's signed another 2 years. Fuck. Selfish old man.
Bloody hell, he has too :lol:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40073103
Wenger :bow:
:shrug:
2 more years underachieving! This club is the absolute pits. Wake me up when Kroenke fucks off.
Absolutely disgusting
We know now that the board and Gazidis are totally powerless
This two year extension has been agreed between Kroenke and Wenger with no consultation elsewhere
Not a surprise at all, this was decided months ago and everyone knows it, he's untouchable, biggest kick in the teeth for the fans, just shows they really don't care probably had a nice laugh at their expense.
What looks like has happened to me is that there was a board meeting on Tuesday to discuss his future, and Wenger has gone directly to Kroenke instead.
What bullshit. If confirmed and there is no mention of this being his final contract, I'm switching off.
So the cardboard cutouts have been cut out. Surely Ivan has to leave now? Wenger was always unofficially his boss's boss, but this makes it official.Quote:
Wenger and club owner Stan Kroenke met on Monday to determine the Frenchman's future, with the decision relayed to directors at a Tuesday board meeting.
At least we can finally dispel that silly shit Wenger has been putting around about him loving the club/ Yeah sure, he loves it like a prized possession. But loving it in terms of doing what's best for it? Noooooooo. That myth is dead now.
Selfish, arrogant, deluded old man.
But it was all engineered a long time ago. In truth, without even the hint of a replacement being lined up, and at this late stage, there was only one option for the job - Wenger himself. I assume Wenger now gets his way over everything and all that silly talk about cutting his total domination from 100% to 99.9999999992% can be disregarded?
Oh well. Roll on.
What's next?
Some bargain bucket shopping in the lower French leagues.
Very selfish - as expected.
Here's to another 2 years of underachievement, embarrassing defeats, collapses, baffling tactical decisions, wasted transfer money and civil war between the fans.
This club is stale as fuck and once again it has passed up the opportunity to do something about it. Completely set in their ways no matter what happens on the pitch every season, but then again what happens on the pitch is not really the main focus is it?
Can't help but resent Wenger for all of this, such a shame he's turned out to be a bit of a cunt after all the backing and patience he received during the seasons after the stadium move.
I live in hope that I'm proven wrong but oh well, I'm done with club for the foreseeable future. :wave:
What I find most contemptible is how he chose to go directly to the majority shareholder so that he didn't have to accept any change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I agree with you, he is utterly despicable and selfish
And yes if Gazidis stays silent he will show himself for the paper tiger he is.
Me too. Peace. :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
It's no coincidence this comes so soon after the FA Cup win, I reckons it's been agreed for ages they were just waiting for the right time to announce it. Completely ignoring the ground hog nature of our league and Europe results. Shameless stuff from a selfish old man and an unambitious owner.
I think had we lost the FA cup he'd have had to actually sit down with the board to discuss his futureQuote:
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Go and support Chelsea :wave:
It says a lot that he went directly to Stan. Very selfish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Strange thing to say. Prime example of why there has been and will continue to be a civil war.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dismantler
There's a civil war because only extremes of opinions are allowed. It has become so polarizing. And you can blame Wenger for that if you want but he's not telling us to fight amongst ourselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I wish he'd gone on a relative high. As we all suspected, he hasn't. The only options now really are to get behind the team (if not Wenger) next season or just tune out from it all.
Wenger is shameful for not walking away, he has a massive opportunity to walk now with his head held high and a trophy to boot. Instead, he cant help himself, he craves the total control and power he has and he is staying despite the majority of the fans wanting him gone. He said himself that he cant understand why fans have been disrespectful to him and that the players were playing in a difficult environment seemingly forgetting that its him that caused all the negative vibes and in fighting.
Going to the owner directly speaks volumes about him, he is a selfish old goat who doesnt care about anyone else except himself.
Just say he's a selfish old cunt. Take the gloves off.
There's the other option you haven't mentioned. Making Wenger's life a living hell at every match until even he decides to fuck off. Like normal fans would do at any other club, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Only reason I'll probably tune out is because the football, and particularly Wenger's horrendous tippy tap ball, bores me to tears. If the football was still okay that would at least be something. The vast majority of fans have always stood behind the team. The idea they haven't is another myth used by Wenger to deflect from the reality.
He totally is responsible for it, the guy has shown the fan base utter contempt in the way he went about getting a contract extension for himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
The longer he goes on, what then becomes extreme about wanting him to be sacked? Not just hoping he goes but wanting him to be sacked.
I personally think staying away would be more effective than making Wenger Our banners and paying a lot of money to wave them in the ground.
For one thing it's a bit more dignified and it hurts board in the only area they have any feeling, the pocket. While Wenger continues to be a cash cow then have no reason to want to unseat him.
This decison was about what's best for Arsene Wenger and Stan Kroenke, not Arsenal football club. It really is shameful stuff.
The worst bit for me is that when next season turns really ugly, which inevitably it will, our club will become a laughing stock to other fans. He thinks what's happened in the ground this season has been a disgrace, but that's just the beginning.
I'll be one of the ones switching off though.
Staying away plays right into their hands. They have plenty of tourist fans lined up, I'm sure. The type of fan they'd prefer anyway. Fans with zero expectation beyond having a nice day out at a major London venue. Selfies and Snapchat all the way. Look at me ma! The 4th Place Crew.
If fans really want to hurt Kroenke and his little empire then target the sponsors. Under no circumstances whatsoever buy anything from any organisation associated with Arsenal. Until Wenger leaves. And turn up to the ground, fuck the banners and start vocally expressing dissent in terms that will make Sky TV turn down the microphones and apologise profusely. Make it so they don't dare televise a game.
Difficult to achieve, given the number of plastics that have infected the fan base. One thing you don't want to do though is invite more plastics in the door.
As I said, if the football was in any way watchable it might be worth it. But it seems these bastards have thought of everything.
Tbh both solutions require more coordinated effort than is realistic.
Yes, I think it is probably best not to try at all and just accept things as they have been handed down. The masters know what's best and they have our best interests at heart. If you don't try, you can't fail.
For me though, Cambridge Town is down the road. I might give it a season with those pubbers to try to reconnect to football at a less corrupt level. Arsenal I'm not interested in as of today. It was getting that way for a long time anyway. Wenger's personal fiefdom is not something that appeals and the thought of two more years of this (at least, and I bet it will be longer) holds zero appeal. If I was still going to the games though, I wouldn't be sitting on my hands. People will have t make their own decisions, but for those who intend to stay on it serves them in no way whatsoever to be passive about this.
I stayed away this season for the first time in 27 years. I'll continue staying away.
I feel sick at the contempt with which the 'Club' treats its fans. There has been a lot of contempt and disrespect, but it hasn't come from the fans.
Wenger and Kroenke can go fuck themselves, the greedy whore cunts.
As expected nothing is going to change at this club, I've seen comments in places that some people have been convinced by the last couple of months he can still do it after a few wins and the FA Cup win, that end of season run bought him some grace and allowed him to sign that contract without too much bother.
This club is a shadow of what it once was, offering little or no entertainment, no excitement and no hope for change, but clearly it doesn't care one bit. At the end of the day Wenger and his cronies have made the club what it is today and that's nothing to be proud of, his comments about it being the treatment he received being a disgrace was just embarrassing because he's the biggest disgrace at this club, a man who really only cares about number 1.
Might as well rename this club Arsene Wenger because it pretty much sums it up, he's become bigger than the club.
You devious twat, when you mentioned a while back you were in down in London mingling amongst human beings I guessed you might be from in and around Cambridgeshire and you said I was wrong (although you were probably pissed)Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Frankly I think if we no longer invest in Arsenal through merchandise or tickets of any kind, than they might be fucked. The Johnny foreigners like supoorting successful teams, and I think there is only so many match tickets you can flog to selfie taking tourists.
So I absolutely would encourage everyone not to renew season tickets. Even if it changes nothing, fuck it why are you forking over money to this shit show.
That's not true anymore. There aren’t that many tourist Arsenal fans to keep making up the numbers every game of the season. Any casuals that just want to see a game in a massive stadium can find cheaper tickets elsewhere around London.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It would be best if fans could stay away from games and not buy the merchandise. Kroenke may still fire Wenger fresh into a new deal if his pockets bleed enough cash. It happened with the LA Rams long underperforming coach, Jeff Fisher. The problem had to stare Kroenke dead in the face. He thought St. Louis was a struggling city that couldn’t afford to support three major sport teams. So he moved the Rams to LA. No excuses can made in LA about a struggling city. Fans have the money to attend games. So when he sees their still struggling to fill the stadium in LA, it’s obvious it’s a sporting problem and he sacks the head coach.
The only way failure will translate to Stan is if the stadium is empty. He’s a real estate guy. Sponsorships not the bread and butter for him. He bought us when we had shite sponsorship deals but had just moved into a new stadium and able to pay off our debt just off the revenue generated from ticket sales. As long the stadiums full, failure won’t translate.
Nope, not Cambridgeshire.
When I started following footie it was all about match day, which was always Saturday and always 3PM. Kickabout. Pub. Match. Pub. Fail to score. Vomit. Hangover. Fucking work, counting down to the next match. Then everything got complicated, expensive, fucked over by Sky TV. So maybe I'll rewind. A season ticket for myself and my son will be around 350 notes a year at Cambridge. Probably can't get away with the pub or the vomiting, but maybe McDonalds and a match on a Saturday might be a good remedy to this Arsenal bullshit. Shitty quality is always easier to take when you are on the scene rather than watching on the box.
And actually, when there was a concerted effort to stay away for the Sunderland game you could see the difference it made.
There are tourist fans but enough to fill a 60,000 seat stadium every other week? Unlikely.
The vast majority of people who go are season ticket holders. They have the collective power to see the ground almost empty for most of next season.
There are what, 40,000 season ticket holders?
What's the average price of a season ticket, about £1000? I was paying more than that and when you factor in club level it's probably more.
So that's at least £40,000,000 we could deny them. Add in drinks and food in the ground and shirts and other stuff then you could probably double that.
£80m is a big enough hole in even Arsenal's budget to make them sit up and take some notice.
I didn't mind televised football when it was terrestrial, like you had the Big Match and then The Match (with Elton Wellsely) showing matches you could watch with your Sunday dinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I remember him being sniffiy about our title chances in 90/91 and then as it became clearer we were going to do it the crowd at Highbury singingQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
"We're gonna win the league.
We're gonna win the league.
And Elton's gonna believe us
And Elton's gonna believe us
We're gonna win the league."
I remember the peanut seller who always customized his patter depending on the occasion. One one UEFA Cup night "Peanuts! Get yer European peanuts!" and when we were on a particularly bad run "Peanuts! Get yer Relegation peanuts!"
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We were happier back then. #nostalgia
Missed all that. I used to go up to London on the coach and that was a tight operation. Always arrived just in time, and if you didn't shift your arse out of the stadium at the end you were walking home. Then the stupid "no beers on the bus" rule that everyone paid strict attention to, of course.