Super Super Quality Transfer Speculation & Shit

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Yoss is sh*t, I'd hate us to have 2 or 3 of him.

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Hes gone thank god

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

have to say would rather we signed three or four players like demspey. good but not world class, will work hard for the team and give their all then spunk the same money on one player who will do a nasri which is turn up for the odd game but go missing in others.

give me players at 7/10 rating every game then some that will be 9/10 then 5/10

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You seem to think that just because they are top class they won't work for the team, there's plenty of examples that do, just unfortunate Wenger seems to pick the wrong ones.

In addition how do you expect us to hold onto top players with our current policy, even RVP who is Arsenal through and through is thinking about his options.

As for Kagawa, I commented on the stats that were misleading since most of his goals were in Japan (a lot in the 2nd division), but he's got a year left and is being linked, so how is he any different to other players wanting to move, I don''t see him signing a new contract either.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Hes gone thank god

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That's great news, but just shows how easy it is to please some fans, Wenger sells two of our best players, then is forced to panic buy and signs a player in his 30's noone wants and that's enough.

Last summer was a panic buying nightmare, I'd have like to have seen some top quality replacing what we lost, that opportunity has gone now of course.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

just to clarify my point. give me a yossi over arsahvin any day. arshavin could produce magic but we never knew when yet yossi would always work hard and help our cause more

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To get by with a group of players who "work hard" won't get us anywhere. For a start you need a strong man manager to get them to play above their level and I think we all agree that probably isn't Wenger's strongest point. United have managed it with Rooney as their 1 true world class player, the rest are all the consistent 7/10 players you speak of, but that's only because Fergie is incredibly good at what he does with them.

Every team needs a sprinkling of star quality and I'd welcome Hazard or anyone like him.

I can understand why Arsenal fans are wary of billy big bollocks players, we've had our hands burnt enough times now but that shouldn't put us off going after the very best because ultimatley, those are the players who are more likely to help us make the next step up.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

You seem to think that just because they are top class they won't work for the team, there's plenty of examples that do, just unfortunate Wenger seems to pick the wrong ones.

In addition how do you expect us to hold onto top players with our current policy, even RVP who is Arsenal through and through is thinking about his options.

As for Kagawa, I commented on the stats that were misleading since most of his goals were in Japan (a lot in the 2nd division), but he's got a year left and is being linked, so how is he any
different to other players wanting to move, I don''t see him signing a new contract either.

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To be fair Kagawa has also grown a hell of a lot since scoring all those goals in Japan. Towards the end of the season he was good for what seemed like a goal or assist a game (those are not exact stats and I stress the word seemed)

Hazard is good there is no doubt and it could be said better than Kagawa but I think one of the general arguements is that whether we are right to roll the lot on one player (which is basically what its going to take) or spread it out a little and pick up,a couple of players for the same amount.

It is a difficult one to call, the thought of RvP Poldol and Hazard is wuite mind blowing but a package of Kagawa and MVila is an interesting idea.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

To get by with a group of players who "work hard" won't get us anywhere. For a start you need a strong man manager to get them to play above their level and I think we all agree that probably isn't Wenger's strongest point. United have managed it with Rooney as their 1 true world class player, the rest are all the consistent 7/10 players you speak of, but that's only because Fergie is incredibly good at what he does with them.

Every team needs a sprinkling of star quality and I'd welcome Hazard or anyone like him.

I can understand why Arsenal fans are wary of billy big bollocks players, we've had our hands burnt enough times now but that shouldn't put us off going after the very best because ultimatley, those are the players who are more likely to help us make the next step up.

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We just need a change in management. It's crazy that we're now talking about work arounds and bringing in players that don't need coaching and that can help lead our squad. I don't understand the point of having a coach that can't give clear instructions to his squad. Wenger is supposed to be one the top guys when it comes to player development. I just hope this is his last season regardless of the outcome.

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Originally Posted by Ach

An easy transfer to Spain?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We're the only club to have made a significant signing so far aren't we? Everything else is rumour and agents gossiping. All the big names will be whoring it up at the Euros trying to add a couple of zeros to the end of their already stupid pay packets. Wouldn't imagine the last minutes stuff is always down to the club. I can certainly see a few of those puke agents stringing things out. Doubt the player wants to be hanging around on the last day either but the grubby middlemen have to be satisfied, don't they?

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Sure we've made a significant signing and it it's a good one too..but we don't do this enough.

I don't think it's a coincidence that we either fail to complete deals or have long drawn out sagas more than anything other TOP Club. We can't even get rid of players quickly, and I include our best ones in this statement.

If your happy with our transfer strategy so be it, but I sure as hell aren't. I don't like the way we feel to significantly strengthen weak areas of our squad every season and I don't like the way we operate in the market, we seem to be foreving waiting for something when it comes to negotiating or attempting to complete deals.

I'm not advocating we spend like Citeh or Chelsea, but I would like to see the club invest more money in the squad, it really is as simple as that. How an earth the club think they can continue with the current policy whilst charging the highest price for tickets in land beggars belief. We can't even fall back on being the team that plays the most "attractive" football.

I accept that repeatedly moaning about it isn't going to make it change but I'm not happy about the current regime, it stinks.

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Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over

To be fair Kagawa has also grown a hell of a lot since scoring all those goals in Japan. Towards the end of the season he was good for what seemed like a goal or assist a game (those are not exact stats and I stress the word seemed)

Hazard is good there is no doubt and it could be said better than Kagawa but I think one of the general arguements is that whether we are right to roll the lot on one player (which is basically what its going to take) or spread it out a little and pick up,a couple of players for the same amount.

It is a difficult one to call, the thought of RvP Poldol and Hazard is wuite mind blowing but a package of Kagawa and MVila is an interesting idea.

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I'd be surprised if either Kagawa or M'Vila were to join. United are all over Kagawa aswell as Hazard and I read on the other board that M'Vila said in a recent interview that he'll decide on his future after the Euros. If M'Vila has a half decent tournament then we'll be priced out of a move for him.

I see we're now strongly linked with Nzonzi of Blackburn, Versatile Midfielder Check, Cheap Check, French Check. Nzonzi will be our new Midfielder not M'Vila IMHO The boy (Nzonzi) will be a squad player, he'll be brought in to try and put pressure on Song and fill in the gaps as he's quite versatile.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

That's great news, but just shows how easy it is to please some fans, Wenger sells two of our best players, then is forced to panic buy and signs a player in his 30's noone wants and that's enough.

Last summer was a panic buying nightmare, I'd have like to have seen some top quality replacing what we lost, that opportunity has gone now of course.

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you make it sound like yossi did fuck all for us last season. he was a key player in our last run of form to third ffs. great games against the scum, goals against norwich and west brom. gave his all and actually did somehting. what else do you fucking wnat?