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We are not even a successful business, not in relative terms to the growth and potential of the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I personally don't think it's as black and white as we are just in it for profit, because we sure aren't maximising the commercial potential of the club.
Im honestly confused to what we are doing.
I think in fairness if they only cared about profit they wouldn't make such a mess over players wages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Deportivo for instance wanted Perez back permenantly but we only managed to send him on loan with no option to buy at end of the season.
We still have Debuchy, Jenkinson, Campbell on the books. It may have all been about money at one time. But if anything Wenger has spunked more money up the wall than most. It seems more to me that the owner and what can be called the board, are largely as happy with the arrangement to leave it all up to Wenger as he is.
They plotted to force a DOF on him in my opinion as a reaction to fan anger being directed at them.
Of course Wenger is to blame he is not a patsy or an unwilling participant. He is a stubborn old control freak who is too scared of retirement and too arrogant as a result of his exulted position to either change his ways or go.
But I suspect it will take a lot to get rid of Wenger because it means they might have to earn their salaries
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
The only man that has power to get rid of Wenger is Kroenke. Ivan and Chips Keswick already threw Wenger under a bus last season when his contract renewal talks were at fever pitch, they were overruled by Kroenke. Wenger is here until Kroenke says otherwise.
Kroenke is obviously a major problem but so is Wenger. I don't even care that we are not top 4 material anymore but I do care that Wenger is doing nothing to get us back there. He's destroyed the technical side of this club.
And I don't think Kroenke is here enough to care.
As sleeping partners go he's in a coma
Wenger has to be hounded out. I didn't like this approach last season and in fairness I still don't like it now but it's hardly like he's left us much choice. It isn't like the home fan base turned on him in the majority, the way things are going now I think they are going to be pushed to it.
Getting booed at away games is one thing, facing the majority of fans at home games chanting "Wenger out".
He isn't some kind of super human, he already admitted the criticism last season got to him.
Cheer up guys.
Alexis is like a new signing.
I agree with this, but it's maximum profit with minimum effort IMO, realistically in the long term investing and being successful would reap much greater rewards, but ultimately there's a risk, one we don't want to take. It's an asset for Kroenke and as long as his asset grows in value and makes a nice profit every year he's happy, he can use this asset to make money elsewhere in areas he's more familiar with because let's be honest he's neither interested in football, nor does he have any knowledge about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I'm pretty sure he will get hounded out this season, he's made his position untenable IMO. It's different to previous seasons, he is managing a toxic and divided squad now if the Reports are to be believed. This season is going to be very messy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Maybe they let Wenger have free reign, seeing as he delivers profit every year they are happy with his performance (Kroenke is anyway), this means Kroenke doens't have to get involved and has a business that runs itself whilst he can concentrate on things he's interested in, it's a sidenote for him nothing more, one that he doesn't hae to put any effort into.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
The wages thing is all Wenger, he has these crazy ideas about paying kids big money and re-signin up players who have never achieved anything on more money on long term contract and is utterly incompetent. Ironically he's let our 3 best players run down their contracts, that's Wenger all over though, clueless.
Kroenke doesn't care as long as his asset grows in value and he makes a profit, Wenger it totally incompetent and ridiculously stubborn and has way too much power over all aspsects, he doesn't see what everyone else see's and doesn't really value success on the pitch that highly, his measurement of success is finances.
Yeah I think its possible as well, if fans continue to protest inside stadium AND players look like they are downing toolsQuote:
Originally Posted by selassie