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You'd have moaned your tits off had we lost, now you're moaning we won :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
We do need to follow it up with some league results though and I agree we've been here before, too many times.
Meh. Let's see what we do tomorrow and for the rest of the season
We didn't win. If we'd have won we would be through to the next round. You could expand this sort of winning philosophy to a league season and a hopeless relegated outfit on three points all season basking in the glory of that one fluke win, that aberration, that singular mishap. If we scrape 4th we'll cheer that I suppose. They have us trained to appreciate failure, fortunately because that's all they can deliver except sky high ticket prices and a annual fuck you very much from PHW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Ah the 2 famous words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
"Let's See" should be GWs motto
The tragic thing is that there are people on here who would have moaned if we had done enough to go through. . .backing up their point of view with the logic that it doesnt matter that we won because we are going out in the next round.
I do understand what people are saying when they comment on the win as pointless due to the fact that it fell short of putting us through but surely that thinking is based on the idea that we never were going to or never tried to score three goals and that we were satisfied with two nil. I dont believe that is true, in fact the defeatist attitude we label the team with seems to have infected the fan base too (which TBH cannot be helped I suppose)
I did not think we were going to win, I hoped we would play with a bit of pride unlike the way we played in the first leg. I was proud of the result and applaud the lads for it. Does that make me a reconverted believer? . . .sadly not, our once a month play with a bit of spunk performance is not good enough. I know that one result does not mean that Wenger has got it right. . .too much damage has been done both on and off the field.
However am I proud of the result, on tge face of it, yes I am. Deep down. . .it doesnt change a thing. We need to get thtough the rest of the season by playing our hearts out. . .whether it is enough for fourth, I dont know, if we fail to reach that goal then the club only have themselves to blame
We should have won that match by 3 or 4 goals easily. Bayern didn't show up and by the time they realised we weren't going to lay down they couldn't up the gears. Any half decent team would have knocked them out. We aren't a half decent team by any stretch. Then again, if the Germans were playing a decent team they probably wouldn't have been so complacent. The match was a bit like a mosquito biting a sleeping elephant. The insect got a few lumps in and then got squashed. But it was a moral victory apparently.
Had we won it I'd have been happy despite the truly dreadful performance and the embarrassing lack of quality at that level in most of our players. Not happy because we'd sneaked past Bayern on their off day because we can't forget how hopeless we were in the first leg, but because any sort of an achievement with a reward attached would be a first for this club after so many years. The hope would have been it could spur them on to regaining a shred of pride in the last few weeks of a such a dreadful season. As it is they couldn't manage it, no surprise at all considering they are total shit. Well paid though so it's not all bad news.
It will be interesting to see how Bayern recover from doing an impression of us, albeit with a bit of talent. Downturns like that can drain momentum. So it could turn out we have given them the footballing equivalent of malaria. Another victory without having to actually achieve anything.
no we wouldn't and no we couldn't have won that game by three or four goals. as easy as it may seem watching the game from our warm, comfy little sofas, happily depressed in our secluded bubbles of hatred toward the putrid mess served up far too often this season, it is still far from realistic. a fair perception of fans not sitting in a stadium cheering on their side? or a misjudgment compared to those who payed far too much to travel out to germany, paying to see the boys in the flesh and cheer them on no matter what? goonersweb is a bubble, much like the rest of the internet. what i'm interested in, and what reflects the real feeling of the hardcore fans willing to pay out the arse to see arsenal play a game of football, will be the comments of the few thousand stuck up in the gods of the allianz arena. those are the guys that will boo, cheer and exude every sinew to reveal the state of where our fans stand at this moment in time. those are the guys that pay for the privilege to take the lead on how everyone else perceive us and truly reflect the state of the relationship between player and fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yeah cos Bayern regularly lose games at home by 3 or 4 :rolleyes:
I think if we put in a performance like how we saw against Liverpool or Reading this season, I doubt there would be such a backlash. An outstanding performance with key players looking lethal and confident wouldn't go ignored. There would be more analysis and praise going on like when Diaby had a storm of game, when Theo scored that hat trick or when Santi scored a hat trick. When we perform at the higest level we're usually entertained by the game and talking about the best bits and 'looking like the Arsenal of old'. This wasn't thrilling or entertaining and gave no hope of us pushing on. We didn't fin that extra gear and that's what I hoping for which is why I want Wenger to experiment with the team more. We need inspiration from somewhere, someone.
Reminds me of the 20 years I put in when we again weren't winning anything and the stadium wasn't quite so glittery. Only difference was there was football being played back then. I'll retain the right to have a well earned opinion but I'll certainly let you know if that changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
They don't regularly play a team a shit and pointless as ours and they don't regularly forget to turn up to the match. In other words, your point is meaningless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps