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Shouldn't be losing your wife at 65 years of age. By that age you have learnt to live with all the shit bits about your other half & you can't change anyone. He is blaming it on the pressure of the Aresenal job & not having quality time with his family. Surely he would have done both us & his family a favour by simply stepping down.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-league-defeat
All the players need to watch Roy Keane's comments. The delivery....:lol:
They better turn up for the next game.
To be honest, talking about Wenger's wife and marital problems is way below the belt, out of fucking order really. Fine, if it was your average celebrity dickhead exposing his life when everything is going well then bollocks to them, deal with the abuse when it all goes tits up. Until a recent article I don't think I've ever seen a picture of his wife. He clearly has no interest in mixing business with his personal life. His own problems are exactly that. Like ourselves. What has he done so catastrophically wrong to get cheap abuse about one of the most intimate relationships in his long life? Lost some games and upset some Gooners? Seriously get a grip of yourselves. Just because the tabloids need some cheap dirt to dish around for clicks and rotten gossip, doesn't mean you have to stoop so low. Are we going to sit here and look down our nose at scum like Chelsea, all the while parading such classless double standards? Talking about his wife is sprinting full on into Mourinho territory, it isn't funny, it's just nasty and makes you look like a completely despicable cunt.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...nger-live.html
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Wenger having a break down in the press conference. When it's his fault, he doesn't handle criticism well. He's taken it badly.
Arsene Wenger threatened to walk out of his press conference when he was asked whether Jose Mourinho was right in claiming he was the only Premier League manager not under pressure.
The Arsenal manager appeared to show signs of strain, however, by saying it was “depressing” and “boring” that his decision to play David Ospina over Petr Cech in the Champions League defeat at home to Olympiakos had been criticised.
“Stop that story or we stop the press conference,” Wenger said when asked about Mourinho’s claim before adding when asked whether Cech would play in Sunday’s Premier League match against Manchester United: “Do not come always back with that same story. I think you lack a bit of creativity in the press at the moment and you follow a bandwagon. It’s very boring.
“I don’t go along with that (criticism). If you have an interesting question I will answer but apart from that let’s not always come back to the same story. Come to the game on Sunday and you will see who’s in the goal.
“I think you have not watched well the game on Tuesday night. To come always with the same story.
“You can put the goalkeeper you want in the goal. He can make a mistake and you have to accept that.
“If you watched really the game and you come to the conclusion we lost because of Ospina I question your knowledge in football.”
Arsenal have come in for fierce criticism following their defeat against the Greek champions but Wenger was defiant about the opinions voiced by various television pundits, including former Arsenal players.
“Because they lack a bit of creativity in their questions.” Wenger said. “They don’t analyse well. Honestly, not one came out and analysed well the game. One pundit says something on TV and all behind that repeat the same thing. It is quite boring.
“Nobody came out with numbers where the game was won or lost. It’s quite depressing to read that and hear that. But all just come to the same conclusion and haven’t watched what’s gone on on the pitch.
“We lost the game because we didn’t defend well. Yes the keeper made a mistake but we could still have won the game because of that.”
I think he is right about that really. We didn't lose because of our choice of keeper. Ospina has been reliable by all accounts and if the outfield players had done their jobs, we wouldn't have been 1-0 down or shipped another goal straight after scoring one. Ospina was comically responsible for the second and of course you would expect our first choice keeper to play in a 'must win game' but our second choice done well enough last season, he isn't exactly an early-days Fabianski, disaster waiting to happen. Look at Cech against West Ham, no-one expected that sort of fuck up from a world class keeper. The bigger story and problem of our CL is poor defensive, stale midfield and limp attack. Which of course are Wenger's responsibility and he should be hammered for that, instead of concentrating on a keeper responsible for one of the three goals.
Totally different world for cash millionaires. For us plebs, fair enough, but for guys who can flash the cash you can take your pick no matter what age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
I think he's 100% wrong, just as he was 100% wrong with his team selection. It's not about whether Cech would have saved it or not, it's about having strong and experienced characters on the pitch in the big games. That was a huge game, one we had to win. Wenger doesn't have a leg to stand on, he fucked up in the most basic way. I doubt any other team playing in Europe selected their second string keeper unless they had injury issues. Wenger just does stupid things these days and he gets the hump when asked to justify his decisions. He's the manager of a huge club that's constantly in the public eye. He should be asked about these decisions, it's entirely legitimate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
On the other hand, this "meltdown" he's having, don't they call the same thing "spectacular" when Maureen does it? For me, moaning about the job security of another manager is a much bigger meltdown.
The problem for me is it narrows the criticism down to a single decision, which is of course how the simpletons in the media work as they treat their audience as even bigger dickheads but it excludes the other ongoing issues in the team. We should be hearing questions about the defence, midfield, general team selection etc. Wishful thinking I know but I don't think the reason we lost was solely because of our keeper. Widening the questions put to Wenger would truly put him under the spotlight and hopefully make life more uncomfortable as there is nowhere to hide. The media find one niche and hammer it to death because it's far easier to build a narrative around one point and then flog it to a mass audience. But if Arsenal fans want to see him held accountable for his mismanagement, then the heat needs come from several angles. I know I'm in dreamland here regarding the media, but a fella can hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The press have been on Mourinho for his meltdowns. It started with the doctor fiasco and they’ve been on him for the Wenger jibes. I don’t see a double standard in that. But I think Wenger has played this one wrong. The press have played it wrong as well. It’s not all Ospina’s fault. That at least is true. The press then should have focussed on Wenger because he’s the true culprit. I though the Coquelin decision was just as barmy. Wrong time to start sniping at the press over his failures. Just hold your hands up, protect your player but keep cool. He’s an arrogant guy though. These are the sort of examples I point to when people suggest he’s challenged by the Board or his players. I don’t see how anyone can sway him. He just needs to be sacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
:gp: We agree on that. I think you've both raised good points there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano