Arsenal v Chelsea Match Reaction

It's a massive cop out when you consider that the side leading the way in the premier league is a side far less expensively assembled than ours, and paid far less for their services.
We have dismissed them as if they aren't there, but end of January they have only lost two league games to our five
This is a team that have not had to deal with European fixtures but this is a side with a far smaller squad, and in the last month have had to play the exact same amount of games we have.

what amazes me the most is how anyone cannot be offended and embarrassed by some of the shit Wenger comes out with after such results, and the annual shit served by the board members at the AGM. They are cunts, who are now taking us for mugs and for granted.

Fuck 'em and fuck loyalty to them and their mission/cause, cause it sure as hell ain't improving the football aspect at this club.

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Originally Posted by Maestro

what amazes me the most is how anyone cannot be offended and embarrassed by some of the shit Wenger comes out with after such results, and the annual shit served by the board members at the AGM. They are cunts, who are now taking us for mugs and for granted.

Fuck 'em and fuck loyalty to them and their mission/cause, cause it sure as hell ain't improving the football aspect at this club.

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anyone who thinks otherwise, then I'll leave you to discuss with Letters ...and keep the message board buzzing

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Originally Posted by selassie

I expect us to go into the penultimate game fighting for the title too, anything less is a failure IMO.

So you are essentially saying we can't improve upon Wenger right now?

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I'm not saying that, but some of the names bandied around on here as replacements have crashed and burned elsewhere.
I don't think anyone will come in and we'll suddenly be sweeping all before us.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

That's a bit of a cop out.

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I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Cop out of what?

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Originally Posted by Letters

I'm not saying that, but some of the names bandied around on here as replacements have crashed and burned elsewhere.
I don't think anyone will come in and we'll suddenly be sweeping all before us.

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The blunt truth is Wenger in the last 10 years has won two cups, that's it. 4th places are all very good but are pretty meaningless, if we looked at another manager and all they'd won is 2 cups in 10 years but had a history of coming 3rd/4th we wouldn't touch them with a bargepole, we'd think this guy is an also-ran never being able to deliver success.

2 cups in 10 years, that's it and put like that he's nothing special at all, 4th places only mean something in terms of money and the CL, but for any proper football club interested in being the best and success it's not much of an achievement.

4th place means nothing, especially when you consider what he's done when he's qualified for the CL,it would be different if he'd won the CL or got to the latter stages regularly, sadly that's not the case, on that basic his record is mediocre.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

It's a massive cop out when you consider that the side leading the way in the premier league is a side far less expensively assembled than ours, and paid far less for their services.
We have dismissed them as if they aren't there, but end of January they have only lost two league games to our five
This is a team that have not had to deal with European fixtures but this is a side with a far smaller squad, and in the last month have had to play the exact same amount of games we have.

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Originally Posted by Letters

I'm not saying that, but some of the names bandied around on here as replacements have crashed and burned elsewhere.
I don't think anyone will come in and we'll suddenly be sweeping all before us.

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Nor does anyone else but what would be nice is to have a board & a manager that would like to sweep all before us. What could a Ranieri do with our players & money if you look at what he's doing at Leicester, what if we'd got rid of Wumget a few years ago & replaced him with Pochettino - he has improved Spurs far more in the last few years then Wenger has us & what job could Koeman have done with out resources - would we be more attack minded & not throwing away results with Wenger's new found get a lead & sit back philiosophy. No-one knows the answers to these but it I would suggest all of the above could get us top 4 & the occasional cup at the very least. Wenger has had a lifetime to prove he can challenge again but simply cant, so saying that others may not do any better doesn't wash anymore. We are stagnating under Wenger just at a time when the finances have never been better for us - this is the time to get the best quality players, to play quality football - but he simply won't.

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Originally Posted by Letters

I expect us to go into the City game, our penultimate game, with a shout of still winning the title. I guess that would be classed as challenging. It is a bit subjective but that would be a reasonable guide.

There is no standout team in England. A Barca or a Bayern would walk this league.
Clubs like City, Chelsea, Utd have spent silly money in the transfer market and none of them have pulled away from 'the rest'. If anything, perhaps because of new TV deals, the rest are catching up. And supposed top manager after top manager have been put in charge of some of the top clubs in England, given silly transfer budgets, and none have made them stand out from the rest or into a European power.

So while Wenger is getting on and needs replacing at some point, probably sooner rather than later, I'm not sure who you think would come along and suddenly turn us into a Barca or a Bayern. If City or Chelsea didn't do that with all their money then why would we?

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And where did I say I want a manager to come along and suddenly turn us into a Barca or Bayern?

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

It's a massive cop out when you consider that the side leading the way in the premier league is a side far less expensively assembled than ours, and paid far less for their services.
We have dismissed them as if they aren't there, but end of January they have only lost two league games to our five
This is a team that have not had to deal with European fixtures but this is a side with a far smaller squad, and in the last month have had to play the exact same amount of games we have.

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And they've had injuries to their key players.