Match Reaction - Arsenal vs Sunderland

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Originally Posted by server too busy!

Wow the midget got bite. Mate no point being an internet hero, how can you possibly be the biggest Arsenal fan I know when you are begging the team to lose and laughing with joy when we concede. You don't get behind the team like any fan should, if you really feel that way get off of the internet and make a protest, moaning on GW isn't going to do shit. For any Arsenal fan a loss should make you feel sick and disappointed. Are you going to roll out how you fly all the way from America to watch your glorious Arsenal...big deal, just because you have the money to throw around doesn't make you the biggest fan.

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Tell me one way how being optimistic or not moaning is going to change the direction of the team? Do I get behind my team? 100% everytime they are on the field... I have said this many times, I'd rather the manager and players prove me wrong and make me eat humble pie than being proved right! However ground realities say otherwise.. we have no direction and unless we got that beating at OT, we wouldnt have changed a thing at our club.

No, I dont pray for us to lose but falling down is a necessary step in getting up, especially when our manager has lost all his brain cells! On top of that, he has the support of the board... not for long, I hope. Getting out of the champions league or having a mauling like the one at OT are necessary evils.. you can agree or you can disagree with my viewpoint but the bottomline is this: What was the main reason for one of the biggest overturn in our transfer policy in the last 6 years? I know you know the answer...

As for protesting when I am off the internet, I will be doing that when I am in London this feb, I plan on taking a banner saying "Wenger OUT" with me to the ground and if I dont have a ticket, I'll stand outside Emirates with it! And I am not even the biggest fan for that or because I spend a lot of money to watch Arsenal.. I am the biggest fan because I love this team more than many of you so called 'locals' would.. I have supported this club since I was 7 having never lived in England and I have and will stick by this team through thick n thin.. if I had to support Manchester Utd for being a successful club, I'd have done that before Wenger came in or for that matter, post 2005.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

don't see ambition at City tbh, just becausxe you chuck a load of money on players and try to build a team don't make you ambitions. I mean if city are so good why does their captain and starman want to leave, really ambitious that.

The other 3 id give you although there not really guranteed medals just because they buy big, but id agree with it.

City ok club but they have to win lots of stuff live their rivals before they can become a great club and people will take them seriously. Like i said once they win trophies regulaly then they won't be judge as just a club you go to for money.

end of the day id rather have players that want to play for my club as long as the show heart and passion its all good.

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Well they are willing to do what it takes and sign the best players to win trophies, that is ambition however you look at it.

Tevez is homesick, when players get homesick and want to be near their family football goes out the window but the fact is they signed Aguero.....2 years ago they didn't have a hope but suddenly players are recognising that they can pick up trophies at Man City and taking note.

Fact is we can't compete on any level with City, if we could offer medals and the chance to play alongside top players we'd have something, Wenger has done such a poor job though that we're left with next to no decent players and realistically little hope of competing....and it's not just down to money, it's poor signings, poor tactics, poor coaching, a fixation on passing and neglect for all the other areas that matter, poor and lack of squad harmony and an inability to address obvious problem areas amongst other things.

It's not impossible for teams to compete with City and co, point is if you're going to you need to have a top manager and a few top players, we really have neither...in reality you'd have to be a bit of a fool to come to Arsenal as a top player at the moment because we're a club going nowhere fast.

The club is all about money, unfortunately that doesn't help us as none of that can be used to entice players...it's reserved for the manager and the moneygrabbers on the board, they don't give a toss if we compete as long as they're seeing the profits roll in.

I hope they all go bankrupt one day (once they leave the club obviously).

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

Tell me one way how being optimistic or not moaning is going to change the direction of the team? Do I get behind my team? 100% everytime they are on the field... I have said this many times, I'd rather the manager and players prove me wrong and make me eat humble pie than being proved right! However ground realities say otherwise.. we have no direction and unless we got that beating at OT, we wouldnt have changed a thing at our club.

No, I dont pray for us to lose but falling down is a necessary step in getting up, especially when our manager has lost all his brain cells! On top of that, he has the support of the board... not for long, I hope. Getting out of the champions league or having a mauling like the one at OT are necessary evils.. you can agree or you can disagree with my viewpoint but the bottomline is this: What was the main reason for one of the biggest overturn in our transfer policy in the last 6 years? I know you know the answer...

As for protesting when I am off the internet, I will be doing that when I am in London this feb, I plan on taking a banner saying "Wenger OUT" with me to the ground and if I dont have a ticket, I'll stand outside Emirates with it! And I am not even the biggest fan for that or because I spend a lot of money to watch Arsenal.. I am the biggest fan because I love this team more than many of you so called 'locals' would.. I have supported this club since I was 7 having never lived in England and I have and will stick by this team through thick n thin.. if I had to support Manchester Utd for being a successful club, I'd have done that before Wenger came in or for that matter, post 2005.

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That's not supporting the team through think and thin. Wenger built this team. Make your mind up.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Well they are willing to do what it takes and sign the best players to win trophies, that is ambition however you look at it.

Tevez is homesick, when players get homesick and want to be near their family football goes out the window but the fact is they signed Aguero.....2 years ago they didn't have a hope but suddenly players are recognising that they can pick up trophies at Man City and taking note.

Fact is we can't compete on any level with City, if we could offer medals and the chance to play alongside top players we'd have something, Wenger has done such a poor job though that we're left with next to no decent players and realistically little hope of competing....and it's not just down to money, it's poor signings, poor tactics, poor coaching, a fixation on passing and neglect for all the other areas that matter, poor and lack of squad harmony and an inability to address obvious problem areas amongst other things.

It's not impossible for teams to compete with City and co, point is if you're going to you need to have a top manager and a few top players, we really have neither...in reality you'd have to be a bit of a fool to come to Arsenal as a top player at the moment because we're a club going nowhere fast.The club is all about money, unfortunately that doesn't help us as none of that can be used to entice players...it's reserved for the manager and the moneygrabbers on the board, they don't give a toss if we compete as long as they're seeing the profits roll in.

I hope they all go bankrupt one day (once they leave the club obviously).

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You chat some bollox so one day you say you want big players then you say they are fools to come here, well with fans like you why would they want to. If big players want to come him they will if they don't feck em who wants players with no passion for the club anyway.

we can compete with city if we offer top wages but thats never going to happen. As for them going bankrupt that a silly thing to say why should their familes suffer because of the choices they made.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

You chat some bollox so one day you say you want big players then you say they are fools to come here, well with fans like you why would they want to. If big players want to come him they will if they don't feck em who wants players with no passion for the club anyway.

we can compete with city if we offer top wages but thats never going to happen. As for them going bankrupt that a silly thing to say why should their familes suffer because of the choices they made.

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And you say Zimm's the one talking bollox :lol:

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

And you say Zimm's the one talking bollox :lol:

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Originally Posted by Coney

That's not supporting the team through think and thin. Wenger built this team. Make your mind up.

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So all the Geordies who want Mike Ashley out or the Mancs who want Glazers out are not supporting their team? I am protesting what I think is wrong at our club, how is that not supporting the team? I support Arsenal the football club.. its managers, boards and players are all transitional and if I feel someone is wrong, I will protest/moan/cry about it.. I dont understand how you can question my support based on something I think is wrong.. doesnt make sense!

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

So all the Geordies who want Mike Ashley out or the Mancs who want Glazers out are not supporting their team? I am protesting what I think is wrong at our club, how is that not supporting the team? I support Arsenal the football club.. its managers, boards and players are all transitional and if I feel someone is wrong, I will protest/moan/cry about it.. I dont understand how you can question my support based on something I think is wrong.. doesnt make sense!

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That's a good point.

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Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)

Although the other 3 come from the money, they had none of them before the money came along.
So it does all come down to the money ultimately.

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At Man City it is all about the money. Nothing else but money.

Even moreso than Chelsea - Chelsea had built a capable team before the injection of Abramovich's cash. With Man City it is money, greed and more money. Anything they win is as hollow as it is possible to be hollow. I don't consider anything they win to mean anything. At all.

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

So all the Geordies who want Mike Ashley out or the Mancs who want Glazers out are not supporting their team? I am protesting what I think is wrong at our club, how is that not supporting the team? I support Arsenal the football club.. its managers, boards and players are all transitional and if I feel someone is wrong, I will protest/moan/cry about it.. I dont understand how you can question my support based on something I think is wrong.. doesnt make sense!

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Bit diffrent they are fighting a board who they thinking is runing their club, not the managers. thats the diffrence. having a protest against the board and against the manger are 2 diffrent things.