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'Fraid not, he's just not much of a CB, just a panic buy by Wenger and the wrong one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
He's not in the class of Luiz or Vidic and never will be.
The excuses are coming out again just like they have time and time again for Koscielny, he was poor for Werder before nothing to do with his CB partner, like I said you take responsibility for your own play especially at his age :coffee:
How is it an excuse jsut because you don't rate him don't mean he is shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
you go on like Luiz and Vidic made the defences themselves without rio vidic would be nothing and with out terry neither would Luiz.
Put per next to cahill or TV5 he looks much better but blaming him when he is next to kos and jd is dumb and shows your bias,
but hey each to their own thats the last thing ill say on this because your just biased so no point talking to you really
It's an excuse because whenever players perform badly you have some sort of reason for it, like Koscielny before him etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
This isn't some kid we're talking about, this is an International defender with 70 caps......the errors were 100% down to him nothing to do with the rest of the defence, if he can't stay in position that's his own fault, just as it is if he allows his man to get a free header or to turn him.
When Luiz was bought Chelsea had problems in defence, he was still fantastic though...so it's nothing to do with the partnership, a good defender performs well regardless of his partner, the team may still concede goals but if he does what he's suppose to he can't be blamed for them....today he was at fault numerous times.
if you belive that more fool you put luiz in oour defence he'd look shit and they still be telling us to buy cahill. Put Merts in the mancs defence he'd look world clasQuote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Nope, he never looked World Class playing for Germany either always pretty average so you're talking nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Luiz would be a great defender regardless, we might still concede goals (as there's no organisation) but his performance would at least be solid.
Mertersacker would never be bought by Fergie, he's not good enough :coffee:
don'y worry you biased so a conversation with you is a waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Fair enough, you'll probably see it in a year or two just like Koscielny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
have i ever said kos was world class or was the answer to our problems, because i have never. did i say merts was etither.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Did i tell you i wanted merts here
No but you've many a lot of excuses for Koscielny as many others have, I've long said he was sh*t due to constant errors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
You're starting to do the same with Mertersacker, sorry but in my book there's no excuses for poor performances and no pointing the finger at other players for another players poor performance either.
Unlike you i like to give players time to settle before i judge them, just like id like someone to give me time to settle into a job before they judge me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Ive backed kos because he had some good games and he was always thrown in the deepend i felt. Not his fault he plays games for us is it. i like to support players in the shirt unlike some