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What's funny about a loan move?
It's funny that he left Werder for 'bigger and better' things and then he's immediately shipped out again before he has kicked a ball for Bayern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
The loan itself isn't funny, it's actually a good move for both him and Bayern.
"Quick" to point out? It only took him a month, as all the ridiculous speculation swirled. And didn't he dive in himself with bullshit about hanging around the kid's house?Quote:
Arsene Wenger says that Arsenal have not made a bid for Monaco wonderkid Kylian Mbappe - and revealed he believes the striker will stay at Monaco.
The £120m-rated teenager has been linked with a host of clubs across Europe with reports from Spain claiming the Gunners had made a bid.
Wenger, however, was quick to point out that was not the case...
Now let's see how much ambition this club really has. If it is even a fraction greater then none whatsoever, we'll keep Alexis for the remainder or his contract. Sure. He can move for free next season. But by then we'll have easily had 35 million worth of value from the player. Only downside is he'll be able to go to those shitty gypos, though there's no guarantee those mercenary fucks and their fairweather manager will make the CL this time around. And if only Wenger would properly strengthen the team and stop chatting shit about how great Giroud is, we could win the Europa League thing and we're back in the CL anyway.Quote:
Speaking in his native Chile, Sanchez said: 'I want to play in the Champions League. The decision isn't down to me, I need to wait for Arsenal.
'I've made my decision, now I wait for Arsenal's reply. The idea is to play and win the Champions League. I've dreamt about it since I was little.
'For now I am at Arsenal and I finish my contract in one more year.'
Media were claiming Wenger has already resolved to chuck the Europa by playing the kids. Maybe true, maybe bullshit. We'll know soon enough.
If we sell Alexis so we can bring even more cash into this club, well everything that's suspected about the people in charge here is confirmed.
Yes. It's called being delusional.Quote:
'Of course,' Wenger said when asked if Sanchez would remain an Arsenal player. 'There is not a lot to resolve with the player. I have spoken through text and it was very positive. My thoughts are always positive.'
It seems everyone bar Wenger figured out it would be kind of tricky to keep a world star when the club lacks ambition to compete for anything of note. I suppose he'll take this latest news as proof positive that his fucking around all this time has been the right way to go. Maybe another little gem of a quote, "Look! When the player wants to leave then we must accept he wants to stay. Just because we do not keep the player does not mean we lose him."
That pretty much says I have my wishes but I will do what the club wants doesn't it?
He's being as vague as Wenger. Just wish they would sort it out either way.
There's absolutely no point keeping Sanchez. It's clear he won't sign. I'd recommend a Sanchez/ Morata swap deal plus we pay 20million. Buy Lemar, sell Walcott, keep Giroud. Give Ozil the contract he wants and the Ox what he wants to sign and play him in the middle. Done.
We have to keep Sanchez. Even if it means losing him on a free next year.
He'll still be hungry and fight for us every week such is his nature, that's priceless.
Maybe he will. But What happens in January when his mind is elsewhere and he's talking with other clubs? Would rather bring in someone who wants to pull on the shirt, not someone who feels like he has to for 12months more. I am not convinced we'll see the same Sanchez this season under the circumstances plus he'll be knackered and blame tiredness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Don't think tiredness will be an isssue, he hasn't had a full summer off in years anyway. I just think we'll almost certainly be worse off without him. He's one of the top 10 players in the world for my money, we won't be signing anyone better that's for sure.
Even if he has made up his mind that he's leaving he'll want to play at his best to get the attention of the clubs he wants to sign for. A lot of players play at their best in the last year of their contracts. Also it's not in Sanchez's character to not give it his all on the pitch, and from his comments about the decision being down to the club it doesn't look like throw his toys out of the pram if we make him see his contract out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
But I am split over whether we should sell him or not. I can see the argument for keeping him but how painful will it be if we still don't win anything and let him walk to City for free in 12 months? If I had more faith in Wenger delivering I would probably lean towards keeping him but I'm not feeling very positive, with or without Alexis.
It's a fucking disgrace that our manager and our club has such minuscule ambition and are such greedy cunts that we can't create an environment where a player like Alexis wants to play. It shouldn't be Alexis who is going - it should be Wenger and the yanks. But, as seems to be the modern way, the winners are leaving and the losers are digging in for the long haul.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
Lamar is risky after just one good season. Selling sanchez will be top 4 gone imo
Unless we bring in a player that can hit the ground running and make up for what we lose from Alexis in terms or goals, assists and work rate....we can't sell him.
There isn't such a player, not for the money we'd be prepared to pay. Wenger's second rate philosophy has finally come home to roost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
He's gone IMO. Wenger has never held on to a player against his wishes before, and the club won't pass up on the transfer fee even if it means to City.
I think hes told the club he wants to leave for City and hes waiting for them to sort it out. He wont stay, hes too ambitious and hungry.
Great player, will be a big loss. Lacazette is his replacement IMO.
I don't think we will sell to City. We don't need the money and frankly it would be stupid to strengthen a direct rival.
If he walks there for free next year then so be it, but if we turned the clock back 5-6 years and started selling to rivals again it would send out a damaging message.
The only way he goes to City is for silly money. £80m+
Don't underestimate the ability of this board and this manager to find the very worst option. As for damaging messages, we'll have to go some to top handing Wenger a new contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
£50mill is the figure that has been mentioned all summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Whatever happens, a decision needs to be made fast so we aren't doing that silly trolley dash on the last day of the window, buying leftovers for extortionate mark-ups.
Even with 80 million for him....who are we going to get to replace him.....
No one. He can't be replaced because he's a top tier player that arrived at Arsenal just before we finally slipped into second tier status. He's the last top tier player we'll attract to the club until Wenger and Kroenke are gone. So we might as well hang on to him for one more year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Although there's Kroenke's and Wenger's profiteering to take into consideration.
Hard decision. Do something for the club and the fans? Or bank the cash? Hmmmmm...
City released Trippier in 2012.
5 years later he's ousted Walker as first choice RB at Spuds.
City pay 54m for Walker!!!
Great management right there.
Brilliant! :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yep, agreed. Losing Sanchez will damage this club's rep for the foreseeable future. We are already viewed as a soft touch, we let Sanchez go and that will be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Well Bayern have announced they are out of the running for Alexis as they have too many forwards. There's no way we should sell to City or any other English club. Not sure who that leaves so keeping him might be the only option either way.
Yep. We should under no circumstances sell him to an English club, if he walks on a free to an English club next summer then so be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
To be honest we should be doing everything in our power to convince him that Arsenal is the place to be by actually improving our team amongst other things. The window so far has been quite good for Arsenal standards but we need more.
Wenger has said he will not be sold, that might change in about a months time.
Alexis, I think, does want to leave.
If Arsenal sign Lemar and if Man City bid enough money, then Alexis will be sold.
I know its all 'ifs' but I cannot see Alexis remaining here without signing a new deal which I can't see him doing.
Arsenal will not win the PL whilst Wenger is the manager anyway, regardless of who they sign/keep and how much money is spent.
We're in an awful situation, keep him and he leaves for nothing next year, sell him and we lose a top quality player. On top of that Ox-Chamberlain is still not signed up. We've brought it on ourselves though, I just don't understand how we let all 3 players run down their contracts to 1 year, makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
The window so far has been ok, we have a decent striker so that's good, but more needed because what we have so far is not enough. Lemar deal is looking more and more unlikely, if we really wanted him we should have got the deal done quickly, because now that Bakayoko is off to Chelsea, Silva has gone to City and Mendy looks to be on his way there as well, Monaco will have plenty of money and probably won't sell unless the get some astronomical offer, they probably don't want to dismantle the whole team.
Mahrez and Mbappe were both just BS speculation with no substance, but you'd have to be pretty gullible to believe we had a chance of signing Mbappe anyway.
We had no choice about letting the players run down their deals. We've been trying to sign them for over a year but because there is zero sign of progress at this club nobody wants to commit. If Wenger wanted to keep these players on his terms he needed to be showing them something other than the same old shite. Something like signing Lacazette one or two seasons ago. Or signing Vidal when he was available. Or snapping up Draxler. Or actually bringing in somebody that could genuinely improve the team rather than just keep it ticking over. But Wenger knows best. He knows that Coquelin and Giroud are qualiteeeee and there's nobody out there that can replace them.
If you're going to do that you may as well sell them with a couple years to go, that way you get a big fee and can spend it on someone else, now it's pointless. I agree though we should have bought better players, always said you want to show top players you have ambition, our mickey mouse transfer policy of signing nobodies has not worked out well for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We need a CM. The guys we have available there right now can only play well under certain conditions and with a certain combination of players. Xhaka, Ramsey and Coquelin struggle against pressing team to distribute the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I agree we really could not impose ourselves on games most of last season, and we also lacked creativity because even though Ozil was scoring more he was creating a lot less.
Journos are throwing around crazy figures up to 80 mill. I think we'll definitely spend that amount on one player. It would be just like us to do that.Quote:
Arsenal will seek to off-load fringe players before deciding whether to smash the club’s transfer record for the second time this summer with a raid on Monaco for Thomas Lemar. Lemar remains at the top of Arsene Wenger’s wish-list despite clear indications from the French champions that they are not selling the 21-year-old winger.
Meanwhile, mind reading experts from the tabloid press have discovered that Alexis believes Arsenal will cave and he'll get his move to the gypos for around 50 mill. Or I suppose, after all these years the journos know Arsenal and Wenger only too well.Quote:
Alexis Sanchez wants to join Manchester City and believes Arsenal will cave in their effort to prevent him from joining a domestic rival.
The Gunners are adamant they will not sell their superstar to another Premier League club this summer.
Indeed, sources insist Arsenal will not consider any offers from the Etihad Stadium outfit, even if it means risking losing Sanchez for nothing at the end of the forthcoming season.
Just read Le Grove. Something about Lacazette playing on the left with Giroud leading the line. :doh:
If Wenger pulls this shit and doesn't drop Giroud down to the bench or form a strike partnership, we've wasted our money.
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
I honestly wouldn't put it past Wenger to do this.
:rolleyes:
What's with the roll of the eyes? Wenger does have form for moving strikers all over the place. In the past Wiltord was moved to the wing, Eduardo was moved to the wing, Perez last season. It's not outlandish to think Wenger could do this to Lacazette assuming Giroud stays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters