So kroenkes staying and so is wenger. Have a great week everyone :tiphat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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So kroenkes staying and so is wenger. Have a great week everyone :tiphat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Finally got around to watching that last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
How John Cross is able to call himself an objective journalist is beyond me - nothing more than a sycophant for Kroenke. Bigging him up here just so he hopefully can get more "exclusives".
"No other owner including Abromovich & the Glazers have spoken to the media as much as the Kroenkes"
Well, no shit dummy, as they care more about delivering on the pitch and don't need puff PR pieces to demonstrate their ambition. They don't need to talk to your shithouse rag as actions speak louder than words!
I think it was a Jeremy Wilson on he ArseAmericapodcast who pretty much said the same thing to be honest. It is an interesting point of view but if course in any case it doesn't mean Kroenke is a good owner or speaking as much as he should given his actions to date or lack of action.
*sigh*Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
This really isn't difficult to understand. Please try.
I DO think Wenger has failed and if we had a board who cared about progress on the field rather than on the balance sheet he'd have been sacked by now.
I DON'T think he will ever win the biggest prizes again for us.
I DON'T jump into every conversation where people criticise Wenger. If I did I'd get involved in every conversation on here which I don't.
I DO respond to some of the more extreme nonsense because...well, I think it's nonsense.
When you start saying stuff like we have an "average squad" and "awful manager" then yes, I will challenge that. It is self-evidently not true.
That doesn't mean I secretly still want Wenger to be our manager.
Is this really so difficult to grasp?
The other day I responded to a post where you said it doesn't matter how Wenger does, I said obviously that's not true but the board don't have the same goals as the fans - it was a pretty clear dig at the board and not a defence of Wenger or anyone else and I still not accused of defending Wenger. :doh:
This board is becoming like the gun lobby in the US when someone says "Umm. Maybe we should take big guns away from mentally ill people or people on no fly lists who the FBI have suspicions about?" the response is always "FUCK YOU! YOU WANT TO TAKE EVERYONE'S GUNS AWAY!". It makes sensible conversation about the issue very difficult and debate is similarly difficult on here because responding to some of the nonsense on here always leads to accusations like the above.
And people wonder why the more sensible debaters left.
Syn :rose:
When have you ever tried to get involved with a sensible debate? You chime in to challenge the most extreme or exaggerated thing in a post and choose to focus on that. Just above your post you have people talking about the AGM event and you decide to drag this one back up with saying what you've said a million times already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Engage with what I've said or fuck off. I've had enough of your shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
And I replied to this late because I was on a work trip and have been travelling.
:lol:
Is this really the type of language and behaviour that should be coming from a mod?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
Well it isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
A moderator should be setting an example. If you can't see it maybe you should step down.
Quite honestly it's pretty pointless engaging with someone who posts shit like this
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Originally Posted by Vieira
Here we go, Letters adding fuel when he should be doing the complete opposite. You've really lost track of what it is to be a mod and set a poor example to the whole forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
:good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I know another guy who won't stepdown :run:
:lol: That was quite good. Well done.
Although he gets paid quite a lot more than me to put up with this much nonsense.
Letters Out! :angry:
Letters you're the Arsene Wenger of the forum.
You're clearly well out of your depth and not capable of being a moderator, but you fail to see it and instead tighten control by going on the front foot. A dinosaur moderator from a different era that is out of touch with the modern GW.
Thanks for the feedback.
Next time we have mod elections feel free to vote for someone else.
Chips :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Kim Jong Letters :bow:
:cool:
:doh: If you've had enough then take a walk! Constantly complaining about the state of GW. Quit whining or fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Init :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Responds like that then complains about the state of GW :haha:
Then wonders about the quality of debates? The guys an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
We need an AGM
Annual goonersweb meeting:bow:
Then the posters can vote and revolt :bow:
You can send us a letter if you have a complaint.
We will thank them for the interest in our affairsQuote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
:cool:
Nah. If I was an idiot I wouldn't know that "guy's" should have an apostrophe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
:cool:
Internet points :bow:
A lot of the posters on here certainly are revolting... :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
I think we should have an amnesty and invite some old posters back. This place needs some activity.
We want our goonersweb back :bow:
Pretty much all of them are welcome back.
A few got banned but only very few, the rest just drifted away and would be welcome back.
Cripps:bow:
This place has gone to the dogs but I suppose it’s also a reflection on the club as well.
Definitely a factor but it's not the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
A lot of people with opposing views were banned over the years and it's been sanitised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Who are you? Obviously an old member under a different guise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
A lot? Do carry on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
Some were - not because of opposing views, if I banned people with opposing views then what are you, PnG and NQ still doing here?
Most people just drifted away.
Those with opposing views were ridiculed, insulted and laughed at, and when they reacted were banned.
Who? Name names. Compared with how many posters we had on here at the board's height very, very few who no longer post were actually banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
And that's a bit rich coming from the person who posted:
And what do you want? You want opposing views on here? In another thread you posted to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
So...you think this board would be better if we didn't have opposing views? That would make for better debate, would it? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
If anything the problem I see is that there aren't opposing views. The only acceptable opinion on here is that Wenger is a ****, any variation from that is met with nonsense like the above. And the second of those was a response to a post I made which was a criticism of the board, it wasn't defending them or Wenger in the slightest. Too often people seem to be responding to things I've not said.
This board has gone to the dogs simply because too many posters have left. There haven't been mass bannings of people who disagree with me, were that so there would hardly be anyone left. Those that are left don't seem to be able to debate anything without taking things to extremes.
I've never seen Letters and Wenger in the same room.
I joined this place in 2011, by that time I wanted Wenger goneQuote:
Originally Posted by Vieira
Don’t recall ever being ridiculed, insulted or laughed at (well not for that reason)
There's just very little to debate anymore. We're the most predictable team going.