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To lose a proven EPL scorer for either of them does not seem like a great deal to me. However if we are to lose RVP, Benzema or Giguain are good replacements. Better than getting useless strikers like Chakma, Chu etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Dont know who she is.. wasnt popular in Sri Lanka, so she is a nobody tbh :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Don't think she would have come here anyway, not with what we pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
They can fuck off, RvP is twice as good as both of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Well maybe Higuain is okay but we should swap Chamakh instead. Don't see any reason why they wouldn't go for that.
Both are quality tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Ring Chamakh and tell him he's out and fax Real the paperwork will you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
FFS Ramsey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18067568Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
:lol:
Me :bow:
RVPs gone
Kos Seems to think Diffrent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
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Laurent Koscielny is confident he will stay.
"He will be here next season," said the defender, who scored Arsenal's winner at The Hawthorns.
"He was a fantastic captain, he was so important for us. He will be here scoring goals for us next season."
I hope Kos is right
Hmm, I don't like he fact he's gone away now with Holland with talks still up in the air.
I do fancy him to stay but it's touch and go.
Nothing gets past Kos.
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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Nothing gets past Kos.
Adolf Koscielny. :bow:
I suppose we can comfort ourselves in the fact that if he does go and that's still a big IF we won't sell him to Citeh or United.
Like MO said it's still touch and go, I've no idea whether he'll be here or not next season.
Pat stating the obvious
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...epartures.html
Every summer its the same, why do the club allow contracts to run out like this? Gazidis isnt up to the gig. We have Bendtner on 52k a week, yet we allow RVP, Nasri etc contracts run down?
We simply can not sell our top striker to city.
If he's going to go, it needs to be either abroad, or he can leave for nothing at the end of next season.
The money is irrelevant as we never see it anyway.
Unfortunately you will be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
What AW and IG can do in the meantime is get some good players to sign up and show RVP some ambition. Is that going to happen? No. AW will then come out towards the end of the transfer window with shit like "I can write a book about this summer".. I bet he is writing the sequel to last years shit.. make it bigger and better.
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Him joining up with NL cup squad without signing doesn't fill me with a great deal of confidence that he is staying. It makes me think that he doesn't really want to stay.
Maybe we agreed to sell him if a big team comes in for him based on him having a good euro's.
Annoying it is. Means we have a lovely summer of every City player, manager, and his dog coming out and saying how great RvP will be playing for them next season.
I will be pretty dissapointed in RVP if he decides to leave, given how we helped develop him into the player he is and stuck by him through all his injuries. But if he does decide to leave its really our own fault, how have we managed to get one of best players into his last year of contract again?
I am sick of players deserting their clubs claiming they need trophies to match their ambitions. There is nothing ambitious about what players like nasri have done. They are a nobody within their club and contributing little towards any success the club has. They are just people taking the easy route through their career.
Surely becoming a legend at your club is more memorable and rewarding than any shiny medals you might win.
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Originally Posted by Thierrymon
That would make sense to any football fan ..But to a player, no matter who he is ..its all about the $$$$$...Players dont care about the fans or the club.
There is a 99% chance RVP leaves, the is really no point to discuss this any further...AFC is run by economic majors and selling Rvp for 20 millions is all they care about.. When Rvp leaves the rest will follow
Its going to be sad watching Arsenal battle for the middle of the table,for the years to come, but atleast the owners will still be making money
Plus we still haven't sorted Theo's contract. Another summer of speculation and tension. But this was all said last season when we had the Nasri and Cesc speculation but nothing was done about it.
Fake Germans :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
What is Vieira up to anyway. He doesnt give a shit about Arsenal retaining its best players - he is one of our main rivals' development officer ffs. I think his comments to the media today are calculated to undermine our club and unsettle our best players so that Man City can poach them. I wouldnt trust him one inch.
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Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72
It's what he does best these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72
Pretty much.
Why is anyone surprised that RVP hasn't signed yet? If we are to challenge again, we need a couple of decent signings. We've done one of the 3 things we need to do to keep RVP at the club. Hopefully, Wednesday saw the club avoid insulting him with a derisory pay offer. Now in a sense the club needs to forget about RVP and secure other signings before RVP returns from the Euro's. I'd include Walcott in this, as he seesm to be a key teammate for Robin. Personally, I hope he is not prolific at the Euro's and this shows him that its Arsenal's set up that makes him a goal machine.
As for why we 'let' our players run their contracts down...I think we have to understand that this is not caused by board incompetence. Last Summer was incompetent in that the manager failed to judge the situation correctly with the 2 pricks who left, but is not the norm. As a club we are capable of signing top talent at the junior end - because we have a reputation that is almost unique among CL stalwarts of giving them a chance to play regular first team football. But we are hamstrung by our inability to win silverware, and in a horrible catch 22 when it comes to our best players leaving. So players hedge their bets because they se us treading water, and are then easy pray for richer, more successful teams. Realsitically, only trophies will result in our best players not allowing the RVP thing to happen.
Is anyone surprised? :unsure:
Not a single soul.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Better?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Why hasn't RVP signed yet? If we are to challenge again, we need a couple of decent signings. We've done one of the 3 things we need to do to keep RVP at the club. Hopefully, Wednesday saw the club avoid insulting him with a derisory pay offer. Now in a sense the club needs to forget about RVP and secure other signings before RVP returns from the Euro's. I'd include Walcott in this, as he seesm to be a key teammate for Robin. Personally, I hope he is not prolific at the Euro's and this shows him that its Arsenal's set up that makes him a goal machine.
As for why we 'let' our players run their contracts down...I think we have to understand that this is not caused by board incompetence. Last Summer was incompetent in that the manager failed to judge the situation correctly with the 2 pricks who left, but is not the norm. As a club we are capable of signing top talent at the junior end - because we have a reputation that is almost unique among CL stalwarts of giving them a chance to play regular first team football. But we are hamstrung by our inability to win silverware, and in a horrible catch 22 when it comes to our best players leaving. So players hedge their bets because they se us treading water, and are then easy pray for richer, more successful teams. Realsitically, only trophies will result in our best players not allowing the RVP thing to happen.
Pretty much Sub.
All this bollocks in the press etc is garbage.
It's clear to me at least, that RVP is not ALL about money. He is not that kind of player. He has been completely and utterly professional all season, when the likes of Ade, Nasri and even Cesc were engineering things there way all year.
Not a peep out of Robin, save to say, he will decide in the summer.
To me, that says more about wanting to win trophies, than it does anything else.
And to give him confidence that we can challenge (nobody can say for definite, save City and their money) for trophies, we need to sign quality.
What's to say that the meeting was about new sigings, and assurance that we would be buying quality?? What if Robin said "ok, show me over the next month or so that you mean business, and I'll sign on".
That seems the most logical, and simple outcome to me.
Unless he's about the money. In which case, the **** can **** off to ****ingdom.
Why would he he gets paid by City not us. So its not surprising fir him to say this. But to me he probs never said it the way its been made to look.Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
Pretty much. Robin is a footballing man who loves the game and if he does leave it would have been a long heart felt decision not an easy one as people say.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
probably still texting our players to ask for payrises...wonder if he has kept cashley on speed dial?Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
i don’t think he is all about the money but he is a very astute guy by the looks of things and is no doubt sitting tight waiting to see what happens during the summer from other clubs. I don’t think it is necessarily just about what we do in the transfer market, as he has seen early signings before (gervinho last season and chamakh before that).Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
he has been smart enough not to give anything away up til now, as not to weaken his negotiation position as he knows his market value is at its premium and never to be repeated again in his lifetime.
the arsenal management have to put up or shut up now. There was plenty of big talk about a ’72 hour window’ which already seems to be blown out of the water and they have to take control of the situation or face being dicked around for yet another summer of turmoil.
Quite right.
I don't blame him at all for looking after himself. But I do think he loves the club too.
Therefore, it's time for our manager and owners to "put up, or shut up" as you say.
If, IF, we can get some more business done over the next couple of weeks (M'Vila and Kagawa seem like a real show of ambition), we'll be going a long way to helping RVP make the decision.
It's time for us to stop fucking around.
And if we fuck about again, I'm sorry, but RVP has every right to piss off....and I think every gooner in the land will be after heads on plates.
That said, if we do sign quality, and he does piss off, he can do one. Because it would tell us exactly where his prorities lie.
If he has any ambition he will go. And I dont blame him - city are only getting going so there is no chance to win the league with arsenal before he gets over the hill. LEts face it he isnt exactly a young prospect at 29/30 yrs old.
Also, for all his recent form, he has never played a full season for us at that kind of level. 30 mill for someone getting on a bit and made of glass with one year on his contract? Bite their arm off.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...persie-hollandQuote:
Arsenal's anxiety over Robin van Persie's next career move has been reflected by them barring him from talking to the press while on international duty.
The striker travelled to the Netherlands on Thursday to begin his national team's preparations for the Euro 2012 finals but Dutch reporters, who are used to a relaxed relationship with the players, were told that Van Persie was the only one who would not be addressing them.
"We made a deal with Arsenal and he won't talk to the press," said a KNVB spokesman.
Arsenal are fretful that Van Persie, the talismanic captain, will ignore the new contract that they have put in front of him and seek a fresh challenge. The player, who turns 29 in August, is determined to win a trophy and he has gone seven years without one at Arsenal.
He met the Arsenal manager, Arsčne Wenger, and the club's chief executive, Ivan Gazidis, on Wednesday to listen to what they had to say, in terms of money and ambition. Wenger was on record as saying that he wanted to resolve the situation before Van Persie linked up with Holland, partly to help his drive for new signings. He has already signed the striker Lukas Podolski from Köln.
But Van Persie, who has 12 months to run on his contract, has made it clear that he has no intention of re-signing at the moment as he waits for offers to crystallise from his various suitors. Manchester City and Juventus have a firm interest in Van Persie. The PFA and FWA Footballer of the Year would relish an offer from Barcelona.
I Hope we keep him, and that the board turn over a new leaf on the ambition thing. I just dont think it will work out that way (but would love to be proven wrong)
Why does it have to be city not, why not abroad. He can win the league with a few clubs or am i wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan B'stard
