ok then, mr jokey....joke maker!Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
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ok then, mr jokey....joke maker!Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
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Originally Posted by Grimaldi
It would because it shows he wasn't that interested in the playing staff being improved upon, especially Citeh, given they haven't actually bought anyone else yet. We know he would have a better chance going to those clubs already - that's why the rest of it wasn't needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Who said he wants to go to City? Also, he doesn't specifically mention the playing staff being improved in his statement either. I'm not naive enough to believe that it didn't pop up on the agenda, but a number of things could have been discussed in that meeting. Player departures as well as arrivals, training sessions, new coaches....heck, for all we know, Wenger's future as coach could have been discussed. If he's not here in two years time, then why commit to a new deal? That one could be far fetched but we don't know. Was just thinking back to Henry's departure and his 'excuses' for leaving. It can be a combination of problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Anyway, back to the statement. What else was so outrageous in this statement? What wasn't necessary?
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This is an update for the fans about my current situation. I have kept quiet all this time out of respect and loyalty for the club and as agreed with Mr. Gazidis and Mr. Wenger, but since there is so much speculation in the media, I think it is fair for you guys to know what’s really going on at the moment.
As announced earlier this year I had a meeting with the Boss and Mr. Gazidis after the season. This was a meeting about the club’s future strategy and their policy. Financial terms or a contract have not been discussed, since that is not my priority at all.
I personally have had a great season but my goal has been to win trophies with the team and to bring the club back to its glory days. Out of my huge respect for Mr. Wenger, the players and the fans I don’t want to go into any details, but unfortunately in this meeting it has again become clear to me that we in many aspects disagree on the way Arsenal FC should move forward.
I’ve thought long and hard about it, but I have decided not to extend my contract. You guys, the fans, have of course the right to disagree with my view and decision and I will always respect your opinions.
I love the club and the fans, no matter what happens. I have grown up and became a man during my time with Arsenal FC. Everybody at the club and the fans have always supported me over the years and I have always given my all (and more) on and off the pitch. I am very proud of being part of this fantastic club for the last 8 years. As soon as Mr. Gazidis is back from his 2-week holiday in America further meetings will follow and I will update you if and when there are more developments.
Robin van Persie
I'm responding to you saying 'if he goes to Man Utd, City or Juve'. :blink:
It could've been a root and branch discussion but given you wanted to point out what is most likely or logical surely, it's mainly going to be about players? I mean, it's the simplest way of making sure a player is content with staying at an 'ambitious' club, combined with a much improved contract, of course.
And I thought I had already said why I don't like his statement.
What do you mean by that? Are you talking about his statement? What part wasn't needed or disrespectful?Quote:
We know he would have a better chance going to those clubs already - that's why the rest of it wasn't needed.
As for City, they have a strong enough squad to challenge without adding more to the squad. I don't think he wants to sign for City but the clubs been flirting with them in order to get the fee higher. But that's another story.
I mean the future strategy, with the hidden suggestion about players. Fine privately, to mention it publically though after we've signed players? Not exactly a ringing endorsement of what we had already done and thus I find that part disrespectful, to Podolski and Giroud more than anyone else.
That's reaching a bit. He doesn't go into specifics and as said before, 'future strategy' could come under ownership issues, training methods, change in management, coaching staff...as well playing staff. He hasn't openly criticised our transfers and has been vague for a reason. If you want to see disrespect compare and contrast captain Vieira. Look at what Henry has said before leaving and the things he's revealed. I disagree and think people are blowing things way out of proportion.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Yet if you consider the previous Van Persie issues with our direction, that was supposedly about players too and like you indicated before - if that was the case then, it'll surely be the case now. He has been vague for a reason because he has probably been advised that way - people will be less likely to see through it and won't have that much enmity for him, that does not preclude us from being able to look at it in more detail.
I can't bring myself to care what Vieira said, at least not enough for a big debate about it in this thread, he didn't come out and say 'whatever happens, I love this club'. Plus, that was over 11 years ago and he's not an employee for Arsenal anymore.
Yes, he's being vague for a reason because he knows if he says anything specific the vultures will swarm and pick it apart. I don't think he's been disrespectful at all. He could have said more as Usmanov did with that letter. In the past, I believe he said 'sporting ambition'. But I'm no fool, he must take issue with our transfer policy but who hasn't had a problem with it besides the Board and Wenger? And so what if he has been advised to be vague? Would you have preferred he air everything out in public and give a full account of the meeting and his frustration?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
The other option would be for him to keep quiet and let speculation rip all summer about will he won't he sign. We've been there with other players and I remember fans growing even more frustrated practically pleading for the player to make a statement to say what's what. The treat us like 'grown up' argument. I remember the slack Cesc got for staying quiet while his Barca friends and family spoke and people were saying he should 'man up' and talk for himself. Well, RVP has done that and people are still pissed. Not matter the situation, the only outcome fans would welcome is RVP signing a new deal and nothing else. With or without the statement, if he leaves, he'd get slated. It's what most fans do.