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14-03-2012, 10:47 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner

'Any other team' would not have sacked Wenger. Biggest myth levelled against him.

Why is that myth? It's very rare to find a manager that has been at the helm of a top 4 team for over 15 years and won nothing in the last 6/7 years of his career. Most managers don't get a chance to build team after team at this level unless you keep winning silverware.
14-03-2012, 10:49 PM
Niall_Quinn

He'll see out his contract (as always) and then he'll go. At no point has the board ever given an indication they wanted him out. These guys are focused on money, not football. And Wenger is the best in the business (by a mile) at making money and judging the absolute bare minimum required (in terms of expenditure) to keep the money flowing in. I agree Wenger isn't the most tactically astute on the pitch. But I don't agree that will have any bearing in whether he will stay or go. It's all about the money.
14-03-2012, 10:50 PM
Xhaka Can’t

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

fair enough, that makes sense however the anti-wenger agenda crowd know whats around the corner because its fucking groundhog day every year in North London. i can understand why some people are driven to wanting him to do poorly because if he doesnt get to that level than nothing will ever change. i dont condone this veiw or want wenger to do poorly but it seems the only way for things to change is for the results to continue to slide. history and word form managment have indicated this much.

The only way this Board are going to sack Wenger is if the team start losing money and that will not happen until we finish outside the CL places for at least two seasons. Now I appreciate this is only my view, but there is absolutely nothing coming from anyone on the Board or indeed either of the two main shareholders that would indicate otherwise.
14-03-2012, 10:51 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Why is that myth? It's very rare to find a manager that has been at the helm of a top 4 team for over 15 years and won nothing in the last 6/7 years of his career. Most managers don't get a chance to build team after team at this level unless you keep winning silverware.

Depends what you mean by winning, or whose point of view you examine. 14 years CL revenue is an unblemished track record of success to some, I'm sure.
14-03-2012, 10:52 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

He'll see out his contract (as always) and then he'll go. At no point has the board ever given an indication they wanted him out. These guys are focused on money, not football. And Wenger is the best in the business (by a mile) at making money and judging the absolute bare minimum required (in terms of expenditure) to keep the money flowing in. I agree Wenger isn't the most tactically astute on the pitch. But I don't agree that will have any bearing in whether he will stay or go. It's all about the money.

Excatly, If t hey were so bothered about him not winning a thing he'd be out ages ago. If their happy with top 4 then to him he has been a success and as the fans don't pay his wages in truth were irrelevant.
14-03-2012, 10:52 PM
Xhaka Can’t

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Why is that myth? It's very rare to find a manager that has been at the helm of a top 4 team for over 15 years and won nothing in the last 6/7 years of his career. Most managers don't get a chance to build team after team at this level unless you keep winning silverware.

It is also very rare to have found a Manager that has been at the helm of a top 4 team for 15 years. A population of 2 in fact.
14-03-2012, 10:53 PM
Dennis Bendtner

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Why is that myth? It's very rare to find a manager that has been at the helm of a top 4 team for over 15 years and won nothing in the last 6/7 years of his career. Most managers don't get a chance to build team after team at this level unless you keep winning silverware.

Also rare to find one consistently making money for the club through performance and transfer profit. I'm fairly sure those in football have a lot of admiration for Wenger's work since the stadium build, and would snap your arm off for something similar.
14-03-2012, 10:53 PM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Why is that myth? It's very rare to find a manager that has been at the helm of a top 4 team for over 15 years and won nothing in the last 6/7 years of his career. Most managers don't get a chance to build team after team at this level unless you keep winning silverware.

Blame that on the Billionaire who keep buying these clubs and sacking managers when they don't give them quick success.
14-03-2012, 10:54 PM
Mr. Lahey

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Originally Posted by GB.

The only way this Board are going to sack Wenger is if the team start losing money and that will not happen until we finish outside the CL places for at least two seasons. Now I appreciate this is only my view, but there is absolutely nothing coming from anyone on the Board or indeed either of the two main shareholders that would indicate otherwise.

i was assuming that as losing continued, people will begin to boo and eventually stop attending/watching/supporting. i agree with your viewpoint, that will be the only way he gets fired.
14-03-2012, 10:54 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Depends what you mean by winning, or whose point of view you examine. 14 years CL revenue is an unblemished track record of success to some, I'm sure.

I think it's worse when a manager doesn't strive to win trophies. He's a sportsman at the end of the day and that should be his ultimate goal.

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