It’s literally a one year contract with a 700m salary. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Saudi’s are just doing it because they can.
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It’s literally a one year contract with a 700m salary. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Saudi’s are just doing it because they can.
well you can stop any time you want...Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I think that’s just human nature. However much you have, you always want a bit more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
One would think it gets to the level where you almost literally can’t spend it though. Edit, plus there I arguably a moral issue with going there too.
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...still-on-books
Arteta says the squad is too big.
Well I hope we can now get decent money back for Viera after that goal, quite a stunner.
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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Squad is definitely too big. Unfortunately I can see Vieira more likely to leave on loan
Interesting that palace have shown interest in Nketiah, if we sold him i wonder if that would mean we’d keep Balogun or if we sold both whether we’d go into the market for a striker….wouldn’t mind taking a punt for Ferran Torres
We've GOT to sell Nketiah if we get the chance- he's shite and we can get some money to buy someone taller who knows where the goal is - really we should also keep Balogun but clearly Arteta's so weedded to Jesus that Balogun isn't satisfied he's going to get a fair shout
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Originally Posted by Mac76
I could be wrong but I’m not sold on Balogun, I just don’t feel like it would be a big deal to sell him. Nketiah I don’t mind but ultimately his level is Crystal Palace. What I will say for Jesus is that again only going by the highlights I’ve seen of the Barca game is that I saw the Jesus from the first half of the season. But I’d prefer a more consistent goalscorer for sure
I don’t rate Eddie that highly but I think he’s settled and happy to fight for a spot. He did a good job post-World Cup to be fair to him. You need to have players like that who accept time on the bench because there will always be a pecking order.
We can get a good fee for Balogun despite the fact he’s untested in the PL. Stick a sell-on fee on his transfer incase he does end up being the real deal.
Players have got to go and money needs to be recouped, that’s just the way it is.
But Eddie isn't an impact player from the bench, he's literally useless and having him provides Arteta with an option to take which frankly I'd rather he didn't haveQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I honestly can't imagine any of the other 'big' teams having a main backup striker as hopeless as Eddie, they'd offload - if Palace want him we should sell for sure - if peopel aren't convinced by Balogun then fine we can sell both and get the taller target man up front we all agree the squad needs
If we are a club that wants to be a top team in England, Nketiah should not be allowed near the club.
For me both Nketiah and Balogun are currently more or less level in terms of value. We only have to look at Lacazette last season to put the level of League 1 into context. I see his performance of last season as little different from Eddie being record goal scorer for England under 21. Maybe Balogun has more potential - we haven't seen him in the EPL, but to counter that, while Nketiah does not appear to be top 4 level, he at least has a track record of playing there, and was useful for us when used as a starter.
Eddie is used to how we play, wants to be at the club and for good or ill is liked by the Manager. Balogun's value could easily be the highest its going to get, so the sensible move would be to sell him.
...but despite that is generally ineffectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by IBK
I'd love to be at the club too but like Eddie I'm not up to, so don't exepct to beQuote:
Originally Posted by IBK
I'll go for 'ill'Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
We’re interested in David Raya.
He’s a decent but I’m not sure we need to be spending 30-40m on a keeper. Ramsdale needs real competition but I’d a little confused if we went for someone as good as Raya. I don’t think he’d be signing as a number two so it would be quite interesting how that pans out. Has Arteta gone cold on Ramsdale?
Ramsdale is a funny one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
He's been quite poor this pre-season and it can be said he was one of the players who weren't at their best earlier this year when our season crumbled.
However, there is no doubt that he stood up to be counted in a lot of matches last season and was one of the players we would have to give plaudits for the turnaround in our defending.....at least in the 1st half of the season.
But he is also terrible at penalties, which is extremely strange for a keeper supposedly playing for a team that should be winning trophies.
I saw this earlier today, and though I'd prefer that 40m spent on Kudus or some other attacking force, I think Ramsdale needs real competition.
He doesn't fill me with as much confidence as he did a while back, that's the summary really.
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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
I don’t know how I feel about this, I haven’t seen any example where two top keepers at one club has ever really worked
If Turner was any good he would be providing the competition to Ramsdale. Turns out we are looking to sell him to Forest
My preference would be to go for someone a bit older, who doesn’t mind being on the bench for long spells but has the experience and ability to step up if needed. Someone like Guaita from Palace.
I like Ramsdale a lot and I really don't think we need Raya.
But then, I liked Leno and didn't think we needed Ramsdale, so what do I know?
Could sort of see the logic in that considering Leno wasn’t Arteta’s man. Ramsdale is though.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Weird move.
Maybe Arteta is thinking Raya could be our keeper in the CL and in the cups with Ram just playing PL games, it's the only way this makes sense for me
Ram won't take being on the bench all season for sure, he'll be gone in January if that happens
A Saudi club have offered Napoli 140m for Osimhen. Just the 1m a week in wages too.
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Originally Posted by Mac76
Didn’t Barcelona do that with Ter Stegen and the Dutch fella?
not sure but i think some PL clubs have done it - Chelsea maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I was thinking when they had Neil Sullivan and Carlo Cudicini but I think that was further back than you were thinking, but yep Kepa and the other guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
We are after….no I’m not going to even try and spell it from Napoli. But if Osimhen (sp?) goes to Saudi Arabia I doubt it happening
Would love it to happen just to give English commentators a headache
Kvaratskhelia. Definitely didn’t copy and paste…
Think it’s nonsense really but he was absolutely electric last year. Would be a stunning signing.
You come and go, you come and gooo...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
United on the verge of signing Hojlund for 72m.
Supposed to be the next Haaland but seems a way off that given his average scoring record at the moment.
72m for a guy with about 10 career goals is mad.
I'm not especially bigging up Eddie. I think we rushed into giving him too big a contract and he has been disappointing since...but I am wary of thinking Balogun will be any better - has the feel of just being the shinier newer toy to me. He has the swagger, sure, but on balance I think we should sell him while his stock is high. My preference would be to sell both and buy a top striker but this ain't happening this transfer window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Personal terms agreed with David Raya apparently.
So funny, all this time people were talking about him here I was confusing him with De Gea :lol:
Raya's a very good goalie, that's a decent signing IMO
That said, still not sure how it works if we've got both him and Ram, Arteta will need to handle it carefully...
I notice that a lot of players are being priced out of moves between English clubs. Liverpool have been rebuffed by Southampton over Labia, same story for West Ham with Ward Prowse. United turned down bid from West Ham for Maguire. The money in the game has gummed up the works (of course that’s been the case for some time)
Besiktas are interested in Pepe.
Hopefully we can get a deal done and draw an end to this god awful piece of business.
I’d honestly keep him. I think he’s actually a better finisher than Jesus or Nketiah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
A disgrace how Pepe has been treated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I still maintain that if Pepe played more in 21/22 we'd have got top 4 easily.
He was, by far, the most dangerous player in the squad.
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by mandela8
Arteta never really gave Pepe a long enough run in the team. He just doesn't like him.
We should keep him now that Jesus is out for the foreseeable future. Don't believe the "Out for a few weeks" bollocks.
Arteta's treatment of Pepe was indeed disgraceful
the size of the original transfer fee was without doubt corruption on the part of Raul and the agent involved, but we still didn't really try to see if he could work
Emery at least had the excuse that he wanted to sign another type of player altogether and they ignored him but Arteta just took an instant dislike and only ever brought him on for a small number of minutes in situations where he couldn't show his best
On one hand especially when he was first at Arsenal, Arteta did give Pepe a majority of league starts and the results were mixed to say the least. On the other hand you can argue he persisted with Willian far longer than he should have.
Ultimately Pepe is not a great or even good player but I do think he’s a useful squad player who could get us goals. And it seems churlish not to make use of him.
Pepe was ok during the lockdown seasons but despite his skill I think he was too lightweight and went missing too often. Felt like he was also buried by his transfer fee which was a shame and not his fault. He was also playing in the worst Arsenal team in recent memory, timing is everything and unfortunately for him he joined us at a time of transition and upheaval.
Definitely agree that we made a mistake not using him in 21/22 when we were incredibly blunt up front.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66392858.amp
No idea how much money we got for him
given he was 'player of the year' at Birmingham it ought to have been decentQuote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn