Champions League Knock Out Stages Draw - 16 Dec 2011 - Nyon

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

On topic, we'll win 0-2 in Milan and 3-0 at home.

Podolski with all five.

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:bow: Lukas
:bow: Wenger

I agree that we should focus on the FA Cup tbh. Wenger hasn't assembled a squad strong enough to make a real challenge in the Champions League, because he's simply content with qualifying and then getting to the second round/Quarter Finals, and picking up the financial rewards that that brings. It's the lack of ambition that's so frustrating. If we do get knocked out against a better side, then fair enough, but it's as if we're content with simply picking up the requisite revenue from the UCL Cash Cow, and then not minding when we're knocked out. It may be good "business" sense, but for a football fan, it's damn frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Joker

I agree that we should focus on the FA Cup tbh. Wenger hasn't assembled a squad strong enough to make a real challenge in the Champions League, because he's simply content with qualifying and then getting to the second round/Quarter Finals, and picking up the financial rewards that that brings. It's the lack of ambition that's so frustrating. If we do get knocked out against a better side, then fair enough, but it's as if we're content with simply picking up the requisite revenue from the UCL Cash Cow, and then not minding when we're knocked out. It may be good "business" sense, but for a football fan, it's damn frustrating.

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we might be out the fa cup by the time the cl comes round then what.

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Originally Posted by Fergie the Rednose Reindeer

we might be out the fa cup by the time the cl comes round then what.

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Then we fucked brother :(

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Originally Posted by Joker

I agree that we should focus on the FA Cup tbh. Wenger hasn't assembled a squad strong enough to make a real challenge in the Champions League, because he's simply content with qualifying and then getting to the second round/Quarter Finals, and picking up the financial rewards that that brings. It's the lack of ambition that's so frustrating. If we do get knocked out against a better side, then fair enough, but it's as if we're content with simply picking up the requisite revenue from the UCL Cash Cow, and then not minding when we're knocked out. It may be good "business" sense, but for a football fan, it's damn frustrating.

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I highly doubt Wenger is just content with not performing significantly in the Champions League, I think it's that obsession with it that might have been to our detriment in recent seasons (league wise).

You can't really 'focus' on the FA Cup, it's so dependant on having a favourable draw and the diffremt rounds only come once every three/four weeks. And then there is the problem that later on it means league fixtures need to be postponed.

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Originally Posted by Fergie the Rednose Reindeer

we might be out the fa cup by the time the cl comes round then what.

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Then our season will be as good as over cos we're not winning the CL or the league, still have the 4th place chump cup to fight for I guess.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

I highly doubt Wenger is just content with not performing significantly in the Champions League, I think it's that obsession with it that might have been to our detriment in recent seasons (league wise).

You can't really 'focus' on the FA Cup, it's so dependant on having a favourable draw and the diffremt rounds only come once every three/four weeks. And then there is the problem that later on it means league fixtures need to be postponed.

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You can't say he's obsessed with the CL when his team don't ever look capable of winning it, someone obsessed with it would adapt his team especially for it....he just sends out his team ignores the opposition and tells them to "just play your game".

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

You can't say he's obsessed with the CL when his team don't ever look capable of winning it, someone obsessed with it would adapt his team especially for it....he just sends out his team ignores the opposition and tells them to "just play your game".

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Well no, someone who is obsessed with something can't be objective and look at things clearly. Obsession isn't always a good thing in football.

In any case, don't you think in the last few years our style has been tailored more to doing well in the Champions League (in theory I mean) and thus at the expense of the Premier League?

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

only looking at the short term here i know and ignoring last 6 years. but this season, wenger has done exactly what you said he cant do. he has motivated his team, he has got them playing as a team, he has got them standing tall with the attiude of you aint fucking scoring and if you do, we'll score more. this team fight at the moment, they are proud to wear that shirt. while that continues, we have a chance of winning. remember 2006? written off as soon as draw happened, what actually happened was we became the first english team to win at madrid with a team so full of injuries it was unreal.

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If you meant that, you're a fucking genius.

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Originally Posted by GB.

If you meant that, you're a fucking genius.

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I told him to say that.

Also thank for changing my name to something stupid and meaningless. I finally feel I have arrived.