Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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Originally Posted by selassie

Fair points, can't argue against them. I definitely agree with you in that we are risk averse, well Wenger/Arsenal are in general. I don't think Morata is an upgrade on him right now but I personally think he/Wenger would develop him to a very high level, he's got all the attributes to be a top class player IMO.

Yeah we've missed the boat with Dybala, from what I've seen of Icardi he has a lot of raw potential, he is definitely different to Giroud, more of a poacher, but his hold up play isn't bad and would improve here. I think like Morata, Icardi has high potential. I personally think we should just bite the bullet and bring in someone now who can deliver but has room to grow.

I'll be honest I've not seen much of Slimani but I've heard he is rated. Mahrez I would love but can't see it.

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We missed the boat every time. That's liable to happen when the boat fare is x but you insist on making x - 50% offers at the ticket counter. No boat ride for you, stump up or swim. We don't even swim. We tread water.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

If the manager repeatedly fails to do his job, assuming his job is still to manage the team, if this goes on season after season then isn't it legitimate to criticise him?

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Yes. And I've said clearly he should be sacked.

But taking every opportunity to whine about absolutely every sodding thing and, if there isn't one, making one up is a bit tiresome.

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Originally Posted by Letters

They shouldn't.

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Exactly. And yet Gazidis reckons the opposite. A bloke that claims we can't compete when the club is swimming in money. He's got zero credibility. Same as the manager. The only thing impressive about these two is the rate they produce zero credibility excuses.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Yes. And I've said clearly he should be sacked.

But taking every opportunity to whine about absolutely every sodding thing and, if there isn't one, making one up is a bit tiresome.

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His mistakes link, one to the next. He's a catalogue of calamity. How many knock on effects will we see again due to his refusal to prepare the team properly? And then to top it off he gets the hump when people point out these repeated mistakes. So what do you do with a guy like this? Concede? Keep quiet? Let him get on fucking it up over and over? If constant criticism sounds like whining then maybe that's just the whirlwind effect as his detractors try to keep pace with his fuck ups.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

I agree with Letters that players of the quality that will improve our squad do not grow on trees. I cannot think of a realistic player other than Lukaku who I believe is possibly available now... even then, I think he is a money grabbing cunt who will leave us if another big money offer comes in.

What I cannot understand one bit about this situation is why the manager or any of his minions ever suggest a different system of play? Walcott is pretty wasted everywhere, why not play him with another striker like Giroud? Or how about playing Sanchez upfront with Giroud? Why bench Campbell when he was doing well on the wings?

Money can solve many things in life and football.. since we dont want to splash the cash, why not try something different because what we are trying clearly isnt working?! No Plan B or C ever.. frankly our plan A is pretty shitty too.. and this more than Wengers reluctance to spend money takes the piss for me. I cannot stand the mans stubbornness and rigidity. He cannot leave soon enough!

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That's what really bothers me. I can almost understand not wanting to spend £40-£60 on strikers. But I can't understand why he hasn't tried something new with our internal options. Try a new system with Bif working off a quicker player behind him. Ozil playing behind Bif doesn't work. We need either a more aggressive player playing in Ozil's position or a quicker and more mobile player in Bif's position. I don't want to see us go into next season with the same tactics and set up as last hoping something will be different.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

That's what really bothers me. I can almost understand not wanting to spend £40-£60 on strikers. But I can't understand why he hasn't tried something new with our internal options. Try a new system with Bif working off a quicker player behind him. Ozil playing behind Bif doesn't work. We need either a more aggressive player playing in Ozil's position or a quicker and more mobile player in Bif's position. I don't want to see us go into next season with the same tactics and set up as last hoping something will be different.

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Well you're going to be disappointed because I imagine that's precisely what he intends to do. If you don't succeed the first 12 times then 13 will be the charm.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

His mistakes link, one to the next. He's a catalogue of calamity. How many knock on effects will we see again due to his refusal to prepare the team properly? And then to top it off he gets the hump when people point out these repeated mistakes. So what do you do with a guy like this? Concede? Keep quiet? Let him get on fucking it up over and over? If constant criticism sounds like whining then maybe that's just the whirlwind effect as his detractors try to keep pace with his fuck ups.

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Oh stop the hyperbole, we finished 2nd, we didn't go down.
We should have won the league last year, we'll probably never have a better chance to. And for that he should be sacked. But some people, and you have become one of them, just criticise EVERYTHING he says or does, even if you agree with it. That's where it just gets tiresome. And, worse, you WUM someone like me by labelling me an 'AKB' if I gently suggest that maybe, while clearly past it, he's not the stupidest person on God's earth.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Well you're going to be disappointed because I imagine that's precisely what he intends to do. If you don't succeed the first 12 times then 13 will be the charm.

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A tactical change is so unlikely. By the time he's made a shift we'd have lost key players and other areas need addressing. During the Cesc era it took him years just to switch to a 4-3-3 formation and to stop playing guys like Eboue and Diaby on the wing. He never had the sense to play a Cesc and Rosicky/Nasri in the middle combo like we've seen over the past couple of seasons with Santi and Ozil playing there. He's not getting the best out the team and he's wasted the time of some very talented players.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Oh stop the hyperbole, we finished 2nd, we didn't go down.
We should have won the league last year, we'll probably never have a better chance to. And for that he should be sacked. But some people, and you have become one of them, just criticise EVERYTHING he says or does, even if you agree with it. That's where it just gets tiresome. And, worse, you WUM someone like me by labelling me an 'AKB' if I gently suggest that maybe, while clearly past it, he's not the stupidest person on God's earth.

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No idea why you continue to pick at this. If it's tiresome move on! Why continue to pick the same fight on a daily basis with the same people?

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

No idea why you continue to pick at this. If it's tiresome move on! Why continue to pick the same fight on a daily basis with the same people?

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Letters is right though