Match Reaction v Chelsea

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

this time last year we had conceded almost 20 goals with the same defence. this year we have conceded 5. two of which you cannot blame the defence for but instead vermaelen and chesney.

so its pretty dam obvious bould has made an improvement

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Funny that since he has only let in 1 goal this season.

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Originally Posted by GB.

I want an effective Management team.

We had that, and we didn't have a 'big name' among them.

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We did but Wenger has done a fine job of taking this once great club down the shitter. I feel it'll take a big name to right those wrongs as an inexperienced manager might not be able to handle it

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Originally Posted by Ach

Um what?

You do realise they are part of the defence?

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yes i know, but you can hardly blame the defence for chesney dropping an easy catch or vermalen giving away a penalty for making a stupid tackle.

kos is part of the defence too, however you seem to be blaming him solely for the goals cheslea scored

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Funny that since he has only let in 1 goal this season.

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my point was that two of the goals have been from indvidual mistakes that no one else can be blamed for. chesney made one of those mistakes hence why he is blamed

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

yes i know, but you can hardly blame the defence for chesney dropping an easy catch or vermalen giving away a penalty for making a stupid tackle.

kos is part of the defence too, however you seem to be blaming him solely for the goals cheslea scored

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Cos they were his fault?

Just like i blamed Ches for his howler and Verm for a stupid needless tackle.

Difference being, we won the 2 games they had howlers in so if i had focused on them, you'd be the first to point out i was focusing on the negative.

I treat all players the same. Im not in the business of critisising one player to praise others

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Originally Posted by Ach

We did but Wenger has done a fine job of taking this once great club down the shitter. I feel it'll take a big name to right those wrongs as an inexperienced manager might not be able to handle it

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Yes becasuse there are so many big name mangers out there and our board are really going to spend big to get one.

We don't need a big name just someone who can be effective.

You don't seem to understand the concept of a management team and the dynamics inherent in the management team that led to the success we had.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Yes becasuse there are so many big name mangers out there and our board are really going to spend big to get one.

We don't need a big name just someone who can be effective.

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Wenger wont be leaving any time soon. When he does, who knows who will be available? That is all thats keeping us going these days. The day Wenger leaves and we get our Arsenal back

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Originally Posted by GB.

You don't seem to understand the concept of a management team and the dynamics inherent in the management team that led to the success we had.

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You mean as in Dein/Wenger?

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Originally Posted by Ach

Cos they were his fault?

Just like i blamed Ches for his howler and Verm for a stupid needless tackle.

Difference being, we won the 2 games they had howlers in so if i had focused on them, you'd be the first to point out i was focusing on the negative.

I treat all players the same. Im not in the business of critisising one player to praise others

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i siad two goals can be blamed on indivduals not hte defence, you said they are the defence implying that you blame them all not just one then say you can blame the indivdual. im really not sure what your point is?