Mathieu Flamini Thread (official)

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

It makes a big difference having a DM that's comfortable on the ball. Remember when United stuck Rooney on Arteta and shut us down. We struggled to get the ball out of our half and we'll have the same sort of problem against high pressing teams. Was watching the City game and Yaya was just immense. Was able to collect from deep areas and just turn and shrug players off to help mount attacks. I remember when Vieira left they did an analysis of on his role of the club and why we miss him. It was the simple stuff. Just collecting the ball from deep and passing it off. It's an important part to our game. It's good to see Flamini back in the squad.

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A picture showing average player position on sunday:

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...png?1379955210

Flamini is positioned perfectly.

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

"Do it again and I'll blind you"

sounds like something out of Taken :haha:

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Would even better had he said 'do that again and il find you whilst you're sleeping and cut your throat, rape your wife and burn your children in theyre beds'.

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Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann

I already know 'the difference' you are talking about, Arteta does tend not to want the ball when in traffic, but the problem was exacerbated by him being the only midfield out ball. Now any one of Wilshere, Ramsey or even Ozil drop deep to pick up the ball.

As I said, no-one has tried marking Flamini, so at present we can't be sure how he would manage that sort of pressure.
The only pointer I can think of was yesterday when Szcez gave him a pass with a couple of orcs around him.
In that instance he did very well to control the ball and come out with possession.

Irrespective of that, relying on your DMs to get out of tight spots is inherently dangerous. Flamini may be well suited to tight games where the opposition press, whereas Arteta may better suit games where possession and controlling tempo is more important, such as in Europe.



Now there's something Arteta probably wouldn't do...

MF Enforcer :bow:

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It’s very risky for the DM to have to accept the ball in traffic and tight spots but we’re an attacking team and it’s something I’ve come to expect from a modern day DM. Song was fantastic at dealing with the traffic and it allowed Cesc to roam deeper upfield and stay there. He was confident enough to take on the pressure and pass the ball off safely. At least Arteta is aware of his imitations and isn’t foolish enough to accept the pass under pressure and then get dispossessed. But it also doesn’t help when Ramsey and Wilshere leave massive pockets of space around the field. They core trio don’t play tight enough together. We’re a million miles away from that glorious Old Trafford 1 nil victory. That area needs some fine tuning and we have plenty of options now.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

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:haha: :bow: :haha: :bow:

Finally the kind of player we've lacked, a proper hard man.

So far much better than the 27.5M Fellaini who has looked nowhere near good enough for a top four team. Wenger :bow:

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Originally Posted by Boss

:haha: :bow: :haha: :bow:

Finally the kind of player we've lacked, a proper hard man.

So far much better than the 27.5M Fellaini who has looked nowhere near good enough for a top four team. Wenger :bow:

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Any youtube clips of him walking up to him? Awesome if true :bow:

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Originally Posted by JonasTC

Any youtube clips of him walking up to him? Awesome if true :bow:

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Look, it didnt happen. But that doesnt take was from the fact hes started well.

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Best value for no money ever?

Flamini > Ozil so far tbfh.

Will certain posters finally admit Flamini offers much more than Arteta in pretty much every department? Or shall we keep pretending Arteta is superior?

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

Will certain posters finally admit Flamini offers much more than Arteta in pretty much every department? Or shall we keep pretending Arteta is superior?

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Can't deny it's working very well with Flamini and Ramsey there. Also noticeable that we have adapted our approach so we are not necessarily trying to dominate possession, thus Flamini's shortcomings in this regard are less exposed. I said in another thread that Ramsey's role had changed since last year but in truth it hasn't really. He is a proper all-round CM. So right now the Flamini-Ramsey combination has a good balance and is serving the team very well.

Flams has started the season very well and is growing into his role, love his spirit, real grafter that does the dirty things well.