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Now that I know we are willing to splash the type of cash that could land the likes of Suarez, I don't want him. If we're going to part with that kind of money, talented though he is, we don't need all the shit that comes along with him.
That's a brilliant point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Spurs couldn't afford Benzema.
watch him playQuote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
goes through goal patches before he falls off. He also doesnt like to stay in the penalty area to finish off chances too.
Madrid fans turned on him too.
Maybe Wenger can rescue his career, idk.
If Giroud continues his form, there is a good chance he starts over Benzema next summer.
Vermaelen could seek move
http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...orld-cup-hopes
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I'll have to think about that when it's necessary. January is still a few months ahead. Of course, never playing will not be the ideal situation for me to go to the World Cup, that's for sure," Vermaelen told the Daily Mail.
"People ask me if I panic because I'm not playing a lot but I'm not.
"I have spoken to the manager but it will remain private between us. Things can happen in a split second and change my situation. That can happen tomorrow or next weekend.
"In that case, we will speak differently in January. I have to be ready for that."
Arsenal in crisis!
Yeah, we need to be making as much noise as we can about how much Özil is loving life at Arsenal - might get a few top-class players thinking twice about us, who might have just dismissed us before...Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
I think he's after him in a big way, but we might have to wait until next summer until we see anything happen there...Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Wenger's comments regarding Germany are spot on, I would put money on them over Spain winning the WC at the moment.
With regards to Benzema and Lewandowski, I would prefer Lewandowski (although neither can be really considered a bad choice):
* His form is a little more consistent than Benzema's
* The Bundesliga is the closest thing to the EPL in terms of intensity (so would not have to take long to "adjust" to the pace)
* Should settle in quickly due to our German & Polish contingent
However the most important point is...
* It would be a massive middle finger to Manchester United
At the end of the day though, having either Player would continue to show that we really do mean business, and will help attract Players for seasons to come.
I think most gooners would go for Lewandowski, if there was an equal chance of getting either player (or Suarez or Benteke or anyone else we've been linked with) - I certainly would...
With podolski walcott and sanogo coming back we wont be getting a striker. Plus its January.
Sorry Verm, firmly 3rd choice now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
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Pretty much yeah, and rather than go out and moan about it, how about he fights for his place ?
He's been a sicknote for ages, now he's back, atleast try to get your spot back.
Don't really care too much though, we can sign another replacement. But I'd rather get a replacement in and another defender. Ideally need 2 defenders coming in, if Sagan ends up leaving.
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Originally Posted by Zerlathon
Weve been saying that since 2006. Theyve been "up and coming" longer than us.
Longest run as youngsters since Pan.
Save your money pal, theyre gonna fraud.
Btw Benzema is shyt. Looked promising when he started but that was then. £10m player max.
To be fair that hype has usually been for the guys like Lahm, Podolski, Merts, Klose, Schweinsteiger etc. That generation.
Now there's a new wave of guys for whom it will be their first World Cup, and you also have players like Özil, Kroos and Muller who have just improved year after year since 2010.
Think Brazil will win it mind.
But 1st he needs to learn to defend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
To be fair they have the talent, sadly they picked some unknown to give the manager's job to and it hasn't worked out, he's failed to deliver anything....personally think they'd do better if they got rid of him and brought in someone better.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
France did something similar with Domenech, they just wouldn't get rid of him.
Brazil at home look formidable, the support of the crowd will make a huge difference so I think they have a very good chance of winning if they get off to a good start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
It's certainly all an interesting debate.
Invisible's point about Lewandowski having that interview to make Bayern sweat is certainly probable. Having said that we are top of the league, rich, have Ozil and Dortmund would rather he came here. If anyone can persuade him I reckon Chesney and Poldi are particularly passionate and vocal about their love of Arsenal.
Signing someone like Llorente or Hernandez would improve our squad but not our first XI. Benzema or Benteke would offer tremendous competition to Giroud, whereas Lewandowski or Suarez would outright improve our team considerably and probably make us title winners.
As far as Spanish strikers go, Wenger has been particularly vocal about that Athletico lad.
I'd still be surprised if Lewandowski ended up anywhere other than Bayern, but I'm all for putting in a cheeky bid anyway - why the hell not? As long as we do it early, so we leave enough time to move on to other targets, if it turns out he's just playing games...
If you go back into this thread over the summer, you'll see posts where I / others thought Wenger should have got Fellaini for £22.5m
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Flamini is such a vital player for us really, as soon as he went off, thats when Norwich started getting possession.
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Originally Posted by Munchies
You weren't the only one tbf :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Chesney tapping up Lewandowski ?
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'Słuchaj Robert Lewandowski żarty się skończyły! London calling:)'
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"Listen to Robert Lewandowski jokes are over! London calling"
Chesney :bow:
if we got him, there is no stopping us
We'd be having a good time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
I think it's because we play Dortmund tomorrow, call me a cynic if you must.
It does set an interesting new standard for subtle yet blatant tap-ups though. Is he talking about moving to Arsenal? Is he talking about the CL match? Who knows. Good luck proving the former though, UEFA...
Still not convinced this isnt just a purple patch for Lewandowski. He doesnt strike me as anything extra special really.
If he destroys us tommorrow that would help convince me mind.
Who would you rather get?Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
He did destroy Real who our own team were not even a shade on at the time..... Real might have even had our current golden boy playing for them at the time too, ironically.
I think the main problem with him he is apparently a total arsehole as a teammate. I don't really want us to mess about with Giroud's role as the main striker currently and no way will Lewandowski be happy with bench time. :lol:
I like Giroud but if we are going to get a forward, then why not get the best we can? There are few first team places we can significantly improve on in the first team and as good as the beautiful one is, he can be improved on. If Giroud happens to outplay whoever we bring in, then fine, great even, he can keep the place.
But I don't like the idea we go for someone deliberately second rate or far from ready at this level, ie Sanogo just so we feel like we have cover for Giroud.
If we were more than willing to sign a little prick like Suarez then Lewandowski is a saint in comparison.
Where have you heard this?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Watching Giroud of late, for overall teamplay, there ain't a great deal we can improve on. Seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
We need quality back-up for sure, but Giroud has done enough and shown enough to warrant being first choice.
Along with a number of other players, he's been integral to the way we've this season.
Like the rest of the team though. We need to see him, and them, against some of the top teams to be able to fully judge.
One of the Polish based posters on Redcafe I think it was, Sarni. Could be pure conjecture but I get the impression it isn', in any case, I'm still fairly sure he'll be going to Bayern Munich.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Well simply I don't think there is currently anyone better at linking the play in the way Giroud does out of any current striker; those other strikers might be more likely to score multiple goals consistently but I also think there's a good chance we'd lose the effectiveness of utilising our midfield, which is clearly our stength. It's not so simple as better striker = better team. Suarez is an on the pitch dickhead but as far as I know, off the pitch he is mostly ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
We are saying these things about Giroud (in regards to his link up play) now but we did not necessarily say it about him last season or before he signed for us in spite of the fact it is a feature of his game. At least, we did not talk about how this particular skill set meant that we could not afford to play without him or that his position was beyond improvement. I don't advocate bringing in a better player simply for the sake of said player being better in isolation and to the detriment of the overall team. That would clearly be counter productive.
Our midfielders compliment Giroud's qualities but good players compliment good players. There are other forwards in the world who would link up particularly well with Ramsey, Ozil, Wilshere and Cazorla because they are all fantastic players. Even Chamah's link up play before he signed for us and when he first played for us was exceptional and indeed the main reason he found himself at this club, amazingly.
Moreover, whichever way you look at it, we need a centre forward. I don't know anyone who actually disagrees with that. I happen to just think the forward we bring in should be an exceptional player......regardless of whether it mean he replaces Giroud, plays with him or comes in for him when he is injured.
He may be as quiet and as docile as a mouse in the dressing room but that is really only 1 of many environments in which a player can cause trouble.
Suarez is trying to get out of the club that stood by him even when he was in the wrong on more than one occasion and played a huge part in getting Liverpool's legendary Dalglish the sack. I wouldn't exactly call that a shining example off the pitch.