Jamie Vardy - BBC Sport - Vardy set to reject Arsenal

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Originally Posted by Özim

Thing is at least they have a striker that will score 25 goals a season, we don't so our need is more pressing.

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Sure but what if Kane gets injured? He can't remain injury free forever. Spurs need for quality alternatives is just as strong. Just like City, Utd and Liverpool. Spurs big mistake last season was relying too heavily on one striker and not having strong enough back-up once Dembele and Alli were suspended.

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Originally Posted by Kano

But isn't this the issue? Trying to improve on what we have right now is the important thing. Janssen may be cheap but could take longer to adjust and is more of a gamble in that respect. Right now we would be potentially be paying for less of a gamble, comparatively. All we have to judge Janssen on is one season and so you have judge like-for-like with Vardy. We are also paying more for a British player, one that was the second highest scorer in the league last season and you know already that you pay over the odds for British players transferring within the league.

Ideally it would be good to take both players and see what happens but if it's a choice between the two - and as sceptical as I am about Vardy - I'd go with him. What I don't understand from your perspective is why you keep talking about going for the cheaper option. You always berate Wenger for being cheap and here he is, taking a risk someone that a lot of 'experts' rate highly and think this would be a good buy. I hate using that as some form of credential, but the only reason I do is because I have seen that you place value in the pundits and use their opinions to confirm what you think is right. The price tag at these levels do not matter and it is ironic you are looking at penny pinching and saving money, when you dig into the manager in every other post about the same thing.

It's the same with the Xhaka thing, pretty much dismissing the player because we paid a healthy fee for someone unknown to us. As much bullshit we are fed by the media and 'experts' about players in other leagues, we don't know it all, in fact there are plenty of players that would improve our squad that are not highlighted by the UK media. If the wasn't the case, there's only be 20/30 players only ever worth buying. The other way to look at Wenger in this situation is, if he is willing to pay £30m for a player, he probably is very good. When has he ever taken a chance like this before?

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Possibly, but Vardy will also take time to adjust as we have a different style, different players etc he's shown from his record he doesn't hit the ground running.

My preference for Janssen is simple, he's younger and has got time to improve, Vardy is at his peak and it will be downhill from here and his record other than last season is nothing to ride home about (whereas the other guy is 21 so you can't judge his record really).

I talk abut going for the cheaper option in this case because the cheaper player has potential and could become a top player, so in a straight choice between him an Vardy I prefer Janssen due to his potential and the fact he'll be around for much longer. Obviously I'd prefer a Lewandowski but it's clear we're not going for top strikers, we don't even attempt to and just watch other clubs snap them up so there's no point even talking about those.

As for Xhaka, I'm not dismissing him as much, he may be very good, I just think 33 million for a player noone knows is very steep, especially when a household name like Gundogan went for 20 million. But it is what it is, I hope he's as good as what we paid but the truth is I know nothing about him and I can't say he's stood out when playing for Switzerland as a world beater either but time will tell. If he's as good as we hear that's fantastic, it just seems a lot for someone unknown that's all, especially when we scoff at the price of some more established names.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Sure but what if Kane gets injured? He can't remain injury free forever. Spurs need for quality alternatives is just as strong. Just like City, Utd and Liverpool. Spurs big mistake last season was relying too heavily on one striker and not having strong enough back-up once Dembele and Alli were suspended.

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I don't disagree, but at least they have someone with goals in them, we don't and that's my issue.

Should we be looking at Higauin?

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Should we be looking at Higauin?

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Yes we should, him and Janssen would be ideal, a guy who guarantees goals and a younger player with potential, Liverpool are apparently interested.

We never get the top strikers though, we're never willing to pay up for them, Suarez, Higuain are proof of that.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Yes we should, him and Janssen would be ideal, a guy who guarantees goals and a younger player with potential, Liverpool are apparently interested.

We never get the top strikers though, we're never willing to pay up for them, Suarez, Higuain are proof of that.

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We really messed up ditching Higauin for Suarez because we ended up with nothing at all in the end.

With Vardy, I'd suggest we keep him as an option because it would be criminal if we end up with nothing again. We can't go into another season depending on Giroud.

But we should be making a move for Higuain without question.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Yes we should, him and Janssen would be ideal, a guy who guarantees goals and a younger player with potential, Liverpool are apparently interested.

We never get the top strikers though, we're never willing to pay up for them, Suarez, Higuain are proof of that.

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Yeah, I think we're gonna have to try and unearth the next big thing, if we ever want to see a real elite striker at the club - can't see us ever paying what it takes for anyone who's already made a name for themselves, especially with so few of them around and demand so high?

In the meantime, maybe we can work around the problem, or at least make it less of an issue? If we had another wide forward as good as Sanchez on the other side, for example, then could we get away with having a striker who is only 'very good', rather than 'elite'? I kind of feel that this CF issue is becoming a bit of a cop out now - if we can't inject more world-class into the side through the CF spot, then we should be looking at doing it somewhere else...

Spuds open talks with Janssen. :lol:

FFS! Why are we so slow on this?

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

FFS! Why are we so slow on this?

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Looks like because we'd rather wait on a 29 year old journeyman who doesn't even seem that bothered about coming.

FFS the one time you want Wenger to sign someone younger he does the opposite.