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15-03-2012, 12:15 AM
latewinner

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

I doubt 1 Arsenal fan Would disagree with you there, but the bottom line is regardless of how we think he is meeting his employers targets and that all that matters at the end of the day, sadly.

If they don't sack him next season and he does what he needs to should fans boo him from game 1 or get behind the team they love.

That makes it worse . Wenger has the power to demand what he wants but goes along with them. He's holding us back not them. To me that's just cowardly he has the resources and position to compete but embraces the fact there is money but he doesn't use it.
15-03-2012, 12:31 AM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by latewinner

That makes it worse . Wenger has the power to demand what he wants but goes along with them. He's holding us back not them. To me that's just cowardly he has the resources and position to compete but embraces the fact there is money but he doesn't use it.

True, but why has this been allowed to happen? too much politics at board level so they let him run the club while they sort out their bs. they are all happy to make money etc. If they wanted too they could take away that power in an instant by sacking him but they won't seems happy not to win things are owners.
15-03-2012, 06:24 AM
Xhaka Can’t

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Jeez have you been drinking? There aren't many because we're talking about the top four in the elite leagues. Liverpool sacked Rafa and Spurs aren't a top four team. This isn't just about England. I'm talking about the clubs around Europe that are on a similar level to us.

As I stated earlier - my point is about people saying ANY team would have sacked him. You later brought in the Top 4 criteria - which is in itsel ambiguous because the top 4 in the EPL and most other leagues has been fluid.
15-03-2012, 09:07 AM
Coney

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Originally Posted by GB.

As I stated earlier - my point is about people saying ANY team would have sacked him. You later brought in the Top 4 criteria - which is in itsel ambiguous because the top 4 in the EPL and most other leagues has been fluid.

Sure is. Even Chelsea were in the top four once.
15-03-2012, 09:37 AM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Coney

Sure is. Even Chelsea were in the top four once.

And there manager was sacked for that reason, which is my point.
15-03-2012, 09:54 AM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

And there manager was sacked for that reason, which is my point.

Which is why they're now sweeping all before them...
Other clubs would have sacked Wenger, other clubs haven't always benefited from sacking their manager though. It's misguided to think that things will definitely get better when Wenger goes and it's laughable that some people seem to think things can't get any worse. Some people have forgotten just how rubbish Arsenal have been at times in the not too distant past.
15-03-2012, 09:57 AM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by GB.

As I stated earlier - my point is about people saying ANY team would have sacked him. You later brought in the Top 4 criteria - which is in itsel ambiguous because the top 4 in the EPL and most other leagues has been fluid.

This is getting silly and we have to use some common sense here. This is getting bogged down in use of words and semantics and distracts from the overall point. As seen with Chelsea, they have sacked their boss for a brief period outside of the top four and a run of bad results. When I say top four, or a team on our level, I mean teams with the ability to compete for the league, domestic trophies and European in one season. Of course I'm not comparing us to Stoke or Sunderland.

But even those clubs have strict standards in terms of what they feel a club of their size should achieve each season. We've seen managers that have brought teams up from the Championship to the Prem and sacked the next season if it looks like they're about to go back down to the Championship. Wasn't Rafa sacked for dropping outside of the Top 4? Wasn't Jol sacked because Spurs couldn't get into the Top 4?

The Board have shown a lot of patience with Wenger and I understand the criticism from fans. It shows a lack of ambition, but I can also understand why they're looking for stability. But Wenger really should have won more given that he's been here for so long and able to compete for 4 different trophies each season. The league can be forgiven, but he should have won more cups over the last few years. Two league cup finals, one champions league final and a bunch of semi finals. He's too bloody humble.
15-03-2012, 10:03 AM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Wasn't Jol sacked because Spurs couldn't get into the Top 4?

He was certainly sacked after he got them finishing 5th twice in a tow (their best PL finish to that point).
The season after he sacked him they finished 11th.
15-03-2012, 10:04 AM
GP

The board haven't 'shown a lot of patience with Wenger', they actively support the work he's doing.

There's no chance of him being sacked.
15-03-2012, 10:10 AM
Flavs

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Originally Posted by JoshGooner

Good for u, now on with ur Wenger 'arse' sucking pal

:lol:

Actually I am one of the ones who want him out but thanks for the effort

Uhuh

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