Can we win the Premier League again under Wenger ?

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...orts-exclusive

He turns pundit but does throw in a few excuses for good measure.

Saying this: "You want your fans to be enthusiastic, and we are not playing to avoid relegation." is fecking daft though.

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Some interesting quotes. Plenty of excuses from Wenger. But that's expected. But it's his philosophy on the game and how we should play is what I find interesting.

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On Leicester's style of play, having the least possession and passing accuracy…

WENGER: "You cannot last like that. If they win a title like that, you have to say well done and respect. But in the Champions League, if they don't touch the ball, it will be difficult on Saturday. When you run after the ball on Wednesday against Barcelona and then turn up on Saturday away from home, it becomes more difficult.

"They will have to adapt, but I am not intelligent enough to see what will happen to them. I am just big enough to say well done to them."

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The quality of our game collectively for most of the season was good and in March and April, but we didn't get the points we needed and we were in a position where we had to win every game so it makes it more difficult.

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We have to go that way. Our passing has to be quicker, our movement has to be sharper and our efficiency in the final third has to be better. We don't have anybody with 20 goals in the league, so that is a handicap."

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He also said in the video from 11:00 in about teams parking the bus and sitting deep against us when Geoff mentions us scoring from outside the box for the first time this season. We've struggled for 10 years or so with this same tactic and the answer to how to cope with it was presented in our last game, but he goes on a mini rant about teams changing their tactics to be more defensive against us at the Emirates as if it shouldn't be allowed. He doesn't want to change or adapt his style as seen from what he has said earlier and believes we just have to be patient, more efficient in our passing and movement to win these games. But we've been trying that for 10 years or so now. It makes less sense when he talks up speed and movement but persists with Giroud up front who spends most of his time static and wrestling with with defenders, back to goal.

Journalists shouldn't allow him to say 'the quality of our game was good from March to April' without checking him on that statement. What was good about it? If we're not creating quality chances and putting them away it's not good enough. And in all this...where is the talk of our defending? If other teams are defending with more intelligence and getting rid of players that don't pull their weight, why aren't we doing the same? They really need to challenge him more on what he's saying.

I think you could argue that we are making plenty of chances even when our slow short passing game is in effect, simply because having of someone like Ozil in our team who can create something from nothing.

I don't think anyone can argue that we created very little in any of the games in February, March and April with the possible exception of the game against Man United which we still scored twice from.

We are one of the least clinical teams out there, it will take more than just buying a proven goalscorer to put that right. It's as much about upping the chances to goal efficiency of our current players as well...and if we cannot do that they need to go.

All stats. We're not creating quality chances. If we were putting players through on goal with a clear shot but missing all of them, fair enough.

I also think that's down to not having a top goalscorer or indeed many of our attacking players in optimum positions.

But at the same time with the goal scoring oportunities consistently being created by Ozil, it's enough for us to be doing far better than what we are.

If for instance we are saying we haven't had a shot on target until the second half where a team who comes to the Emirates and sits deep (which is of course fair enough), but whatever style is played you are going to find it difficult to break down teams.
So for me it's two fold, being efficient in front of goal because you cannot always guarantee you will get those clear goal scoring oportunities and two being better when we don't have the ball....how many times have you seen the likes of Ramsey trundling back when we lose posession.

Absolutely no f........g way.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Some interesting quotes. Plenty of excuses from Wenger. But that's expected. But it's his philosophy on the game and how we should play is what I find interesting.








He also said in the video from 11:00 in about teams parking the bus and sitting deep against us when Geoff mentions us scoring from outside the box for the first time this season. We've struggled for 10 years or so with this same tactic and the answer to how to cope with it was presented in our last game, but he goes on a mini rant about teams changing their tactics to be more defensive against us at the Emirates as if it shouldn't be allowed. He doesn't want to change or adapt his style as seen from what he has said earlier and believes we just have to be patient, more efficient in our passing and movement to win these games. But we've been trying that for 10 years or so now. It makes less sense when he talks up speed and movement but persists with Giroud up front who spends most of his time static and wrestling with with defenders, back to goal.

Journalists shouldn't allow him to say 'the quality of our game was good from March to April' without checking him on that statement. What was good about it? If we're not creating quality chances and putting them away it's not good enough. And in all this...where is the talk of our defending? If other teams are defending with more intelligence and getting rid of players that don't pull their weight, why aren't we doing the same? They really need to challenge him more on what he's saying.

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Wenger has been beating the same drum for a while now regarding teams parking the bus against us. He obviously has a vision of how Football should be played and he's too principled to even adapt the style slightly hence the patient comment. He basically won't have it any other way and seems content failing in this approach in preference to winning if he changed things up a bit.

You came out with a great point about Defence, I personally think he totally neglects the defensive side of the game, it doesn't interest him, it's not "sexy" enough. I don't think we can realistically expect progress if he won't address certain tactics and/or organisation within the team.

Finally, Wenger made an interesting point about Leicester saying that he doesn't believe they can maintain a high level domestically and in Europe if they give away so much possession, that's a fair point, but what makes him believe we as a team can achieve such a high level in both competitions if he neglects certain aspects of our game such as defensive organisation/tactics?

If you have a lunatic who keeps jumping in front of traffic regardless of how badly he is hurt each time, do you say he is principled? Or just a loon?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

If you have a lunatic who keeps jumping in front of traffic regardless of how badly he is hurt each time, do you say he is principled? Or just a loon?

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You say to not look at the amount of traffic and focus on the quality of what you do.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

You say to not look at the amount of traffic and focus on the quality of what you do.

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:haha:

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Originally Posted by selassie

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Wenger has been beating the same drum for a while now regarding teams parking the bus against us. He obviously has a vision of how Football should be played and he's too principled to even adapt the style slightly hence the patient comment. He basically won't have it any other way and seems content failing in this approach in preference to winning if he changed things up a bit.

You came out with a great point about Defence, I personally think he totally neglects the defensive side of the game, it doesn't interest him, it's not "sexy" enough. I don't think we can realistically expect progress if he won't address certain tactics and/or organisation within the team.

Finally, Wenger made an interesting point about Leicester saying that he doesn't believe they can maintain a high level domestically and in Europe if they give away so much possession, that's a fair point, but what makes him believe we as a team can achieve such a high level in both competitions if he neglects certain aspects of our game such as defensive organisation/tactics?

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Totally stubborn. It's been 10 years or so and he sounds as if the teams that park the bus are in the wrong but we play the right way. We really don't. Against teams parking the bus the space is tight on the edge of the box and we should be peppering shots from those areas but instead we'll keep trying to work it into the box. That was the case today and when that doesn't work we're trying to cross it.