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1 very good season out of 8? Do you know how many players can be classed as World Class if that's the criteria? Heck, Julio Baptista is World Class in that case. Walcott is too if we're going to talk about form before his injury. Heck, Vardy, Benteke and Lukaku can be classed as World Class too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Saville
I don't think Wenger sees Ramsey as a Central Midfield irrespective of what Ramsey thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
Ramsey has a place in our starting XI for me due to his engine and his eye for goal, but unless we completely restructure central midfield Ramsey has no place there long term.
The fact that we have added to Central Midfield and are linked heavily to Rabiot tells me that Wenger doesn't see Ramsey's future in the middle.
I think Ramsey works well on the flanks, like Ljungberg and Parlour did back in the good old days and they were both Central/Attacking midfielders by trade. Ramsey adds balance to the team IMO, and when we have our strongest XI he doesn't look out of place on the flanks.
Ramsey is integral and one of the first names on the team sheet.
He's not going anywhere, certainly not for as little as £50m.
Exactly how I see him too. He has the knack for timing his runs off the wing and while you won’t see him get to the byline to swing in a cross, hardly any of our wide players do that anyway, so it doesn’t affect our play. I think Wenger likes him out there because he offers security in defence and of course adds to the numbers in the middle when he drifts in.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
The problem is he doesn't score goals or assist from the wing.
I think in time that will come, he's been on a bit of a barren spell goal wise for a while now though has chipped in recently with a few goals albeit from the centre. He most definitely needs to up his game with assists, he has it in him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
He was certainly getting himself into good positions and missed a few sitters when out on the flanks earlier on in the season, Man United being the main one.
I do see both the "for and against" argument with having out wide, despite that I think that's his best place at the moment, he's not disciplined enough to hold things together in Central Midfield, not with any of his potential partners.
Rosicky is back in training! Whey hey! He' finally won his war on drugs and ready to play again.
He lacks discipline in the middle but I’d rather we straighten that part of his game out instead of going for the quick fix. He won’t have a future here at Arsenal as a wide player and he won’t want to stay here if that were his permanent role.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Yeah I hear ya, though I'm kind of in two minds with this. I don't feel comfortable with us essentially developing his discipline via game time in the centre when we are in the middle of challenging for the title. Also when we get some bodies back I think Santi & Jack are better options for us in the centre, especially if they are to be partnered with Coquelin or the new lad, Elneny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Given the number of injuries we get, Ramsey wll still get games in the Centre even though his first choice role might be out wide.
Also, Wenger seems to be very high on Rabiot, if he's brought in then he will start in the Centre and ahead of Ramsey IMO.
Regarding your last point, yeah I think we may end up facing this problem regarding his long term future and where he sees himself, I think the best way he can overcome this is by taking his chance now and making himself un droppable from that position.
Yeah, I’m not a fan of on the job training but since we don’t have many options for CM at the moment and I wouldn’t drop Campbell right now, I hope Ramsey finds his feet again. If not, he’s in trouble. Even without new signings, he’ll see his game time cut if he doesn’t knuckle down.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie