Did Iwobi really get jeered off on Saturday? Unreal if true.
Printable View
Did Iwobi really get jeered off on Saturday? Unreal if true.
I’m not understanding the Iwobi hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
His end product was all over the shop on Saturday but I know he’s capable of better and his work rate is terrific
I feel Iwobi could become a really good player with a bit of meticulous coaching, he's got a lot of natural ability but his brain turns to mush in the final third.
Look at how Pep has transformed Sterling, I think Iwobi has the potential for a similar transformation.
The frustration from the fans is probably more to do with the fact we're currently relying on Iwobi to be our main creative outlet when he's not shown any consistency to earn that role for himself. If Emery played Ozil a bit more then less would be expected from Iwobi but because Emery has decided he doesn't want anything to do with Ozil, that has dramatically reduced our attacking options from midfield. Even more so considering the reluctance to use Ramsey because of his impending departure.
Think Sterling is a lot more direct and not sure Iwobi has as much pace as Sterling... so I don't think he will get to that level of Sterling. But he does work hard and teams need players who always give 100%. As you say he is being relied on to do a role he isn't ready for because Emery doesn't like Ozil and Ramsey is leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
we are now playing 2 strikers and are crying out for a creative attacking midfielder in behind. sort of thing ozil could do if he could be bothered.
Perhaps, but when Ozil doesn’t turn in a performance - which is often the case - he doesn’t get jeered off. Especially if he’s scored a goal and helped set up another. Iwobi has a lot to improve but to jeer him off is fucking retarded. There are bigger problems in the team than Iwobi - plus when you factor in he’s been at our club since he was a kid and fans single him out. We want our ‘own’ players to come through and develop and this is how they get treated along the way. Bellerin has gone through similar. Just plain dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Football fans are generally morons but I do find that we as Arsenal fans have almost conditioned ourselves into being cynical and untrusting, thanks to years of underachievement, failure and a lack of loyalty from our best players. That now infamous picture of the 5 British players signing their new contracts is an example of that.
I had a little chuckle at Ramsey's statement yesterday, he thanked the fans for being loyal and supportive. :lol:
Yeah right, if he could say what he really wanted to he'd never be able to step foot in Islington again.
Very true on both counts. Those frustrations are manifesting themselves not just with the players, but with the new manager too. They didn't just vanish when Wenger walked out the door. Could get even worse next season if Kroenke decides not to invest much into the team.
The problem for Iwobi is that he should really be a backup/squad player, he's still learning but he is almost 23 now so isn't a kid anymore, Emery has put him in the firing line by cutting our Ozil and to some extent Ramsey (cutting off your nose to spite your face) so it's no surprise people are frustrated when we performing poorly and his end product is non existent.
In truth though it's fine to have players like him in the squad but they just shouldn't be 1st teamers because they aren't quite up to the required standard, if Emery decides to put him in there then he has to take the blame if Iwobi gets some flack.
Comparisons with Sterling aren't relevant, just because Sterling made it it doesn't mean Iwobi will be as good, some players just have what it takes and others don't, it was the same with Welbeck (and many others) people said he was a world class striker in the making, he never became one because he wasn't good enough and didn't have the right attributes.
We've seen countless kids play at Arsenal over the years that have been touted as the next great hope, it never really pans out though because those players are few and far between, Iwobi is decent but I'm not conviced he's going to become a world beater, decent squad player if he can improve his end product though, but he needs to improve soon as he's getting closer to his mid 20s now.
I'm not going to feel too sorry for footballers though, they don't have a bad life all in all.
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
Am not sure Iwobi will make it here long-term but he does, particularly as an academy player, deserve some basic respect, he's doing his best and trying to be positive when Emery plays him
Wrighty and Dixon praising the Spuds tonight. How much worse can it get. FFS.
As long as there’s no stupid, retarded, backwards Arsenal fans praising them, we should be alright.
well some people on here see fit to have spuds players in their fantasy sides - that means that in some way they want spuds players to do well, which means they, errr, want spuds to do well...
and these are people calling themselves 'fans' on an Arsenal message board
:sarcy: :thumbsdown:
Ban them!!:threaten::threaten:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Or maybe, and I'm just throwing this out there, they want to win their fantasy competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
tbf, spuds winning anything IS a fantasyQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I have some Spuds in my team but I'd still rather they didn't perform. The fact their players are good points earners is a silver lining I suppose.
Spurs do the FB 10 year challenge with their trophy cabinet. Hasn't changed a bit
https://i.ibb.co/jLHPtnc/10-Year-Challenge.jpg
think yesterday was first time I started to miss Arsenal being in the Champions League.... seems a while since we had a really good European night.
also apparently Wenger nearly signed Sancho from City.
Europa is a more realistic shot at a trophy but it undeniably exciting to be playing a Barca or a Dortmund.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
Although these days we'd just get thumped by them anyway, until we have a chance at giving them a game we might as well stay at our level. :(
I dont miss Champions league nights at all. The last CL outings I remember really enjoying (and ultimately getting my heart broken) was the run to the final in 06 and the invincibles season in 04. We definitely had a real shot at winning the whole thing in 04 but Lehmann f'ed it up in the second leg.
Ever since we moved to the Emirates, there was not one season where I thought we had a shot at winning the title. We had some memorable games like Barca, Milan, Bayern, but I knew we were not going to make it out alive after 2 legs.
I'd rather we play Balochistan FC in Europa and win it. I am a big fish in a small pond kinda guy.
I don't miss the CL either, the group stages were a bore and as soon as we got through to the last 16 we knew we'd get thumped, the lack of unpredictability made it boring, I much preferred the days when I thought we had a shot.
At least we have a chance of winning the Europa, yes it's a poor quality competition in comparison but at least it's achievable and we qualify for the CL if we win it anyway.
i do quite enjoy seeing these oddball teams from far-flung places, it's a good way of adding to the 'teams i've seen play live' list...
but if we're not in CL within 2-3 years it will say something about the state of the club and it really will be hard to get really good players - even if there is money available
Juve gave us Litschteiner
We gave them Ramsay
As Trump would say “that’s the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever”
Laca available for Rennes game :dance:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47546055
Yep just see this on Skysports though this was written 'After having a second-half equaliser correctly ruled out for offside, the France international striker was sent off for swinging an elbow in frustration towards Aleksandar Filipovic with five minutes remaining.
Rennes :rose:
Happy Birthday Pat Rice
70 today
:patrice:
Bercow is great.
Will talk to MrsL about getting this for our room :dance:
https://www.facebook.com/JuniorGunne...2657066878201/
Flew to Warsaw today on one of my work trips. Usually go from Luton but for various reasons went from Heathrow this time which meant we flew across London
Took this from the plane:
https://i.ibb.co/MffRfbh/Arsenal.jpg
Best two stadiums in the UK.
Do you know what I like about The Emirates?
It's that it doesn't look like a fuckin toilet.
Let’s do this shit again this season please
https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football...10/story.shtml
That game is my earliest memory of Arsenal. Just remember my dad going nuts at full time and wondering WTF was going on. :lol:
Would kill for some European success again.
I was in my late teens then but remember sod all of the campaign, only the goal Smudger scored in the final.
And then, of course, the final the following year <_<
Those finals were my second and third years at Uni :oldboy:
Some great memories but I wouldn’t want to go back to that style of football or only turning up for the occasional cup game. Zim’s right that we prioritised the cups in those seasons but I don’t believe for one minute he’d accept that now, I definitely wouldn’t. I suspect he spent most of that season whining his tits off about the results and boring football.
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...d-roger-taylor
I be this is going to be brilliant...
Thing is, when we won the title in 91 we played good football. But as the article says, over the next few years we didn’t build on the squad and got rid of players like Thomas and Rocastle, while the board didn’t want to spend big on replacements. Then when Wright joined we became top heavy in terms of goal scoring. All sounds pretty familiar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters