Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Yeah that's the trouble with how we operate, Wenger treats the clubs money like it's his personal wealth. All he needs to be doing is identifying the players he wants and telling someone to go get them. Unfortunately we're saddled with a board who don't give a fuck and are happy to delegate everything to Wenger as long as the money keeps rolling in.

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I don't think the board get half as much stick on here as they deserve. For all his fault Wenger at least cares. He wants us to succeed even if he's no longer able to deliver that. As you say the board couldn't give a monkeys so long as the money keeps coming.

It's not crucial to the points made but if broadly speaking, if Wenger pays 5k for a player he believes him to be 'potentially' worth at least 10k and if he pays 20 million he believes him to potentially worth 40. He just doesn't want to pay the potential value.

I can easily believe he sees Lacazette as potentially a 50mil+ player but he won't pay that.

I am in a minority in thinking managers (particularly ones strongly tied to their clubs) should be concerned about value and price......but not to the detriment of the club or its best interests.

I'm ready to return to playing on the wing... Theo Walcott makes U-turn on striker ambition to keep Arsenal place


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...nal-place.html

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Originally Posted by Munchies

I'm ready to return to playing on the wing... Theo Walcott makes U-turn on striker ambition to keep Arsenal place


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...nal-place.html

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After last season, he needs to buck up his ideas. Even when playing on the flanks he was operating more as a wide forward and wouldn't focus totally on getting into the box with his runs. We missed his goals and assists from the wing but he has to contribute a heck of a lot more when playing there.

He must be pretty desperate to stay at the club.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

He must be pretty desperate to stay at the club.

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He realises that no one else is dumb enough to offer him 120k a week.

Also we're heavily linked with at 50 million euro bid for Draxler right now. Apparently he's told Wolfsberg that he wants to leave.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...lfsburg-gossip

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Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico

He realises that no one else is dumb enough to offer him 120k a week.

Also we're heavily linked with at 50 million euro bid for Draxler right now. Apparently he's told Wolfsberg that he wants to leave.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...lfsburg-gossip

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We've been linked with Draxler for years and it's never happened, we could have bought him last season for 25 million but didn't, just can't see us signing Draxler, sounds like a trendy name to band around.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Not quite. Considering he's had 5 transfer windows to get this right, I really don't know if he'll do A or B. You're right about it might being too later and it's exactly how Utd were able to offload Welbeck on to us.

We shouldn't still be shopping around for bargains so late on in the window. The season kicks off soon and our new signings should be training with us now. In my scenario, when I'm shopping, I know how much and where I can get the alternative from. Especially if I'm pressed for time. I don't move on looking for a bargain that might not ever pop up. That's like looking for a specific gift on Christmas Eve knowing stocks are low but walking out of the shop not knowing if you'll come across anything better. We shouldn't be in this position. You've seen how Napoli sold their striker and had a replacement signed and confirmed in less than a week. What the heck is going on with our camp?

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I agree with you. However I think our aim is to get a better striker than Milik which is where the issue lies.


We only want a top quality striker
There are a dearth of top quality strikers who we could potentially sign anyway.
We don't want to pay over the odd for a striker

The above three things are not a good combination considering how desperately we need to make this signing. Especially because from the clubs perspective (not the fans) we don't want to pay over the odds for someone who Wenger doesn't consider top quality. Then we've signed someone who isn't a big improvement to the squad and we've spent lots of money doing it.

Therein lies the problem.

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Originally Posted by Kano

It does matter completely. The narrative has become, nearly exclusively through press running stories, that Wenger will not spend over a certain amount no matter what.

We need to improve our squad and I tend to believe the reason we haven't is misplaced faith again and again from Wenger. There is far more evidence of that being the case - going by his endless quotes about that over the past number of years - rather than numerous empty press reports providing no insight beyond what we want to believe or not believe.

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If you look at the history, from day one there has been a reluctance to buy ready made quality. Instead you have a series of punts and cheap solutions. Even Henry was a punt, and this gets lost in the mix because of how good he became.

When you look at strikers he's bought, you have to say that most of them were cheap stop-gap types, rather than actually buying the player we need.

Anelka (unknown)
Suker (Past it, stop gap)
Wiltord (hardly top of the range)
Boa Morte
Henry
Jeffers (FFS)
Kanu (punt)
Baptiste (fat punt)
Eduardo (punt)
Podolski (cheap faded star)
Adebayor (unknown punt)
Chamakh (FFS)
Aliadiadiaidiaire (unknown)
Gervinho (Don't make me piss my pants)
Van Persie (Young unknown)
Bendtner (punt)
Park :shrug:



He has a long history of being a cheapskate. Albeit, he found great players in Henry and RVP.

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Originally Posted by LDG

Baptiste (fat punt).

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