Good Bye RVP!

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Originally Posted by Syn

"We wanted to avoid that at all cost, but we weren't able to.

Shut up, Arsene. It's not any cost, it's £24m. All these principles and all this philosophy and no balls.

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And no one else who were willing to pay the asking price.

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

And no one else who were willing to pay the asking price.

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He says he wanted to avoid selling to Man Utd at all costs. The club could have avoided it. The price for the indignity was £24m. Right now we're hearing all this stuff about Arsene being angry and tired and ruthless - well he's not calling it like it is, is he? All this principled 'they are our rivals' bullshit means nothing now. You can't hand your best player to a club you're trying to catch. That just doesn't make footballing sense. But it does make financial sense - and that is where our priorities lie.

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Originally Posted by Syn

He says he wanted to avoid selling to Man Utd at all costs. The club could have avoided it. The price for the indignity was £24m. Right now we're hearing all this stuff about Arsene being angry and tired and ruthless - well he's not calling it like it is, is he? All this principled 'they are our rivals' bullshit means nothing now. You can't hand your best player to a club you're trying to catch. That just doesn't make footballing sense. But it does make financial sense - and that is where our priorities lie.

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WUMger has gotten to you.

When will people learn to stop listening to every word that lying **** says?

We've done the right thing under the circumstances. Keeping him was impossible. Seeling him cheap was not feasible (especially given what people say about wanting money him to spend money).

What Wenger says and what is reality is something entirely different. If people around the club are saying he is angry, and if other insiders are angry, it means they are pissed off with the whole thing. Not really a willing reaction to this is it?

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Originally Posted by LDG

WUMger has gotten to you.

When will people learn to stop listening to every word that lying **** says?

We've done the right thing under the circumstances. Keeping him was impossible. Seeling him cheap was not feasible (especially given what people say about wanting money him to spend money).

What Wenger says and what is reality is something entirely different. If people around the club are saying he is angry, and if other insiders are angry, it means they are pissed off with the whole thing. Not really a willing reaction to this is it?

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If he really wanted to show that he has had enough, he would've kept Van Persie to his final year of his contract and kept true to the stance that the club originally had in response to Van Persie's statement. You don't play him as a first team regular, you play him as a squad player and take a look at his performance - if they're bad, you demote him again and bring him out for the Carling Cup games. Yes, he would be a very expensive Carling Cup player but it's only for the year and in this way you haven't strengthened your rivals and let the other ****s that pipe up (Song? Walcott?) know exactly what they're dealing with. That's what would happen if Wenger was angry.

As it happens, this is absolutely no different to what has been happening every year. It's comforting for you to think that maybe this time it's really different and it's our choice to sell. But this is exactly the same scenario as Cesc, Nasri and others. Somebody throws a tantrum and they get their wish. I guess you can spin that as you wish. But it's getting hard to avoid the trend now.

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Originally Posted by Syn

If he really wanted to show that he has had enough, he would've kept Van Persie to his final year of his contract and kept true to the stance that the club originally had in response to Van Persie's statement. You don't play him as a first team regular, you play him as a squad player and take a look at his performance - if they're bad, you demote him again and bring him out for the Carling Cup games. Yes, he would be a very expensive Carling Cup player but it's only for the year and in this way you haven't strengthened your rivals and let the other ****s that pipe up (Song? Walcott?) know exactly what they're dealing with. That's what would happen if Wenger was angry.

As it happens, this is absolutely no different to what has been happening every year. It's comforting for you to think that maybe this time it's really different and it's our choice to sell. But this is exactly the same scenario as Cesc, Nasri and others. Somebody throws a tantrum and they get their wish. I guess you can spin that as you wish. But it's getting hard to avoid the trend now.

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Nobody is saying that it was soley our choice to sell. Van ****face engineered that all by himself.

Do you honestly think that our board would sanction turning down 24million?

Of course not.

We were left with no option, but we've managed to get a fucking awesome deal out of it.

And I'm sure Wenger is angry.

Seriously. Nobody wanted RVP to leave. Nobody. Up until the utter twat decided to make it impossible for us to keep him.

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Originally Posted by LDG

Nobody is saying that it was soley our choice to sell. Van ****face engineered that all by himself.

Do you honestly think that our board would sanction turning down 24million?

Of course not.

We were left with no option, but we've managed to get a fucking awesome deal out of it.

And I'm sure Wenger is angry.

Seriously. Nobody wanted RVP to leave. Nobody. Up until the utter twat decided to make it impossible for us to keep him.

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If after giving 16 years of service, having made my employers a fuckload of money and helped the most to move the company to another level, the higher-ups wouldn't let me have my way for one big-money decision, I would walk. If this Van Persie deal was the one where Wenger had finally had enough, he would've got his way. As it happens, he's happy with his arrangement.

The only thing that gives me a little encouragement that the 'fucking awesome deal' will be a good deal for the fans POV is that we got this out the way before the season starts. We still have a couple of weeks to bring in good players - even though it will be hard to find clubs that'll be willing to sell their best players right now. We might've dragged this out until deadline day to get the best deal possible.

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Originally Posted by Syn

He says he wanted to avoid selling to Man Utd at all costs. The club could have avoided it. The price for the indignity was £24m. Right now we're hearing all this stuff about Arsene being angry and tired and ruthless - well he's not calling it like it is, is he? All this principled 'they are our rivals' bullshit means nothing now. You can't hand your best player to a club you're trying to catch. That just doesn't make footballing sense. But it does make financial sense - and that is where our priorities lie.

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Cazorla is still with us :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Syn

If he really wanted to show that he has had enough, he would've kept Van Persie to his final year of his contract and kept true to the stance that the club originally had in response to Van Persie's statement. You don't play him as a first team regular, you play him as a squad player and take a look at his performance - if they're bad, you demote him again and bring him out for the Carling Cup games. Yes, he would be a very expensive Carling Cup player but it's only for the year and in this way you haven't strengthened your rivals and let the other ****s that pipe up (Song? Walcott?) know exactly what they're dealing with. That's what would happen if Wenger was angry.

As it happens, this is absolutely no different to what has been happening every year. It's comforting for you to think that maybe this time it's really different and it's our choice to sell. But this is exactly the same scenario as Cesc, Nasri and others. Somebody throws a tantrum and they get their wish. I guess you can spin that as you wish. But it's getting hard to avoid the trend now.

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Quit banging your head mate.

Bashing the player is the way to go.

How anyone can justify selling the club captain,best player and player of the season to a club you are supposed to be competing with is odd. I'm yet to see any major business do this --- if we are to pretend to ne a business.

I thought you'd be down with this one Syn :unsure:

Ah well.

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Originally Posted by Syn

If he really wanted to show that he has had enough, he would've kept Van Persie to his final year of his contract and kept true to the stance that the club originally had in response to Van Persie's statement. You don't play him as a first team regular, you play him as a squad player and take a look at his performance - if they're bad, you demote him again and bring him out for the Carling Cup games. Yes, he would be a very expensive Carling Cup player but it's only for the year and in this way you haven't strengthened your rivals and let the other ****s that pipe up (Song? Walcott?) know exactly what they're dealing with. That's what would happen if Wenger was angry.

As it happens, this is absolutely no different to what has been happening every year. It's comforting for you to think that maybe this time it's really different and it's our choice to sell. But this is exactly the same scenario as Cesc, Nasri and others. Somebody throws a tantrum and they get their wish. I guess you can spin that as you wish. But it's getting hard to avoid the trend now.

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It wouldn't work.

The idea is a lovely one and it's what most if not all of us would like to see happen, but it's a pipe dream.

Those days are gone, rvp would become a cancer and the constant speculation about his future and how 'he didn't play this week, does that affect the squad?' type questions would be our undoing. The damage to this new squad would be huge.

The club have done the right thing, you may not feel like it now because of the circumstances and it being fresh, but given time you'll feel differently in the long run.

For me it's not about the financial side of things, it's the long term overall impact him staying for the last year would have on the rest of the team.