Jamie Vardy - BBC Sport - Vardy set to reject Arsenal

I think the point Le Grove makes a lot and I tend to agree with is that we've had the same scouting team for years, and you can't help but think that's detrimental. Are we really turning over stones everywhere? Looking in leagues that are largely overlooked?.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I'm not so sure about that. We almost always make an early signing in the summer and then it gets really quiet in the middle until deadline day. It's really early but the season we signed Debuchy, Chambers, Sanchez, Ospina and Welbeck can go down as a season where we showed early intent.

I'm not so concerned about intent. It's just about making the right choices. If you look at the window I just mentioned, we blew a lot of money on players that are already on their way out of the club.

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Yes we did when we signed Podolski, nothing out of the ordinary here really.

I agree about the right choices, too often we make the wrong ones, Xhaka I have no idea about but Vardy for me would be wrong.

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Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico

Just one google search should be enough to tell people about Janssen. No need for scouting there. :lol:


And :doh: this is shaping up to be another frustrating window.

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Wifi connection might be down at the Emirates in that case.

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Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm

It's far too early to be getting worked up.

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It is never, NEVER too early or too late to moan one's tits off.


GW :bow:

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Originally Posted by Özim

I agree Janssen is potential, but what is Vardy, he's certainly need not proven quality, this is a bit like the Welbeck signing for me odd, we could have just paid up and tried to get someone top class like Higuain for example, instead we cut corners and sign a possible one season wonder.

As for Janssen the only player we've even signed who's scored lots of goals before we signed him was Eduardo and he was decent before his injury, all the other players we've signed up front barely had a goal between them in the last 10 years, so Janssen would be a change from that.

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Welbeck never scored that many in a season and let's face it, even if given that sort of run, would never get figures that high. There have been one season wonders before but I can't remember one pretty much being the top scorer in the league and then tailing off into nothing. The only one I can think of is Kevin Phillips and in the two seasons where Sunderland massively overachieved with two 7th place finishes, he got a very healthy 48 in 80 games.

I'm not sure the Eduardo comparison holds up too well. He'd at least had a few seasons scoring goals and playing in Europe and I tend to think we look back a bit favouarbly him at Arsenal in terms of what he achieved pre-injury, probably due to what happened to him. His stats were pretty middle of the road before the injury I think.

If we are looking at buying a player that can potentially be an improvement on Giroud straight away, then buying the leagues second highest scorer is a safer bet. Every transfer is a risk to a certain degree and the gamble we would have to take on Janssen immediately being better than Giroud is higher I think. Price doesn't really matter and shouldn't be a concern to us either. Otherwise you end up sounding like Wenger. And you don't want that surely Zim?

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I think the point Le Grove makes a lot and I tend to agree with is that we've had the same scouting team for years, and you can't help but think that's detrimental. Are we really turning over stones everywhere? Looking in leagues that are largely overlooked?.

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Xhaka may indicate something different in that respect. Not exactly one of the many over-hyped names banded around everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Letters

It is never, NEVER too early or too late to moan one's tits off.


GW :bow:

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I'd say that's more to do with the way the club does things than the way we think.

You moan your tits off whatever we do, so not really.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Welbeck never scored that many in a season and let's face it, even if given that sort of run, would never get figures that high. There have been one season wonders before but I can't remember one pretty much being the top scorer in the league and then tailing off into nothing. The only one I can think of is Kevin Phillips and in the two seasons where Sunderland massively overachieved with two 7th place finishes, he got a very healthy 48 in 80 games.

I'm not sure the Eduardo comparison holds up too well. He'd at least had a few seasons scoring goals and playing in Europe and I tend to think we look back a bit favouarbly him at Arsenal in terms of what he achieved pre-injury, probably due to what happened to him. His stats were pretty middle of the road before the injury I think.

If we are looking at buying a player that can potentially be an improvement on Giroud straight away, then buying the leagues second highest scorer is a safer bet. Every transfer is a risk to a certain degree and the gamble we would have to take on Janssen immediately being better than Giroud is higher I think. Price doesn't really matter and shouldn't be a concern to us either. Otherwise you end up sounding like Wenger. And you don't want that surely Zim?

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No he didn't but there was nothing exciting about the signing, there's plenty of players who have scored goals in one season and never really reproduced any near as many, Adebayor, David White, Phillips (as you mentioned), Ramsey, Michu, Andy Johnson, Roque Santa Cruz, Vardy is only 2nd scorer in the league as he played for the team that won the title which makes a difference.

I think Eduardo's finishing was very good for us before his injury (felt we should have signed Huntelaar personally at the time, another error there, but that's Wenger for you).

Vardy isn't a safe bet at all due to his record, a safer bet than Janssen.....who knows Janssen could turn out to be like RVN at least he has potential, to have scored that many at 21 bodes well, both a gamble but one is younger and can improve, the other won't and is prime candidate to be a one season hit.

I just don't trust this signing, plus Pochettino has a decent record of discovering players and he's trying to sign Janssen which bodes well.

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Originally Posted by Letters

You moan your tits off whatever we do, so not really.

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That's because we've done loads wrong in the last decade, it's taken you 10+ years to wake up to it, I guess some of us are just a bit quicker on the uptake.