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Sick burnQuote:
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Your face has a sick burn on it.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Not using the transfer window as a profit vehicle would be a start and wouldn't require any billionaires to step up. My problem is with the board's unbelievable greed no matter what the cost to the club. I don't say anywhere I want a billionaire to start splashing cash. I've always said we needed some moderate investment in experience and quality. The same has been true for the past 5-6 years so if we looked at a very reasonable £20mill a year on average we're £100-120mill short of what I'd expect in terms of investment if we are serious about being anything more than a Europa League outfit. I want the money people out of the game, the players to get a lot less, the agents to be murdered and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Same software I use to translate most of your posts. . . .so go figure :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by FakeYank
UncleSam Speak 2.0, brilliant software, strips every occurrence of the words "awesome", "dude" and "liberate" and replaces with, "quite good", "Sir" and "Fuck, they're at it again!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
Oh stop before you start - I'm only kidding! (Mostly)
So your saying that the board who are all excellent (and greedy) business men will not invest 20 million into a team when that 20 million could potentially mean winning the PL title~ 20 million quid + more shirt and merchandise sale + more glory hunting fans in Asia, Middle East, USA + chances of striking a more lucrative deal with future sponsors. If that is the argument against the board and Stan then that is a very weak argument. We all agree that these people can only see $ signs and when they can invest that money and make 20 times the invested amount, it doesnt make sense why they wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Arsene Wenger is 100% the reason for our club selling players (see Cesc Fabregas price lowering comment) on the cheap. He is the one in charge of buying players.. for eg: he bought OAC for ~15 million quid. Agreed the kid looks brilliant but where is he now? The board gave AW 15 million quid... what did he do? He bought a kid because he is obsessed with winning with kids or he is deluded.. I think its the later tbh. That 15 million quid could have bought us a good defensive coach and Samba. Also, I dont think the board mentioned anything about the 'waiting period'... AW spend 10 million on Arteta, 8 on Per.. this amount wouldve been available to him earlier but he waited for the waiting period to be over before making last minute purchases.
Pointing fingers at the board is frankly a very very weak argument with absolutely no basis. Yes, they are greedy people... much like the Utd board but they have a manager who works with them and does his job of winning football matches. The board is wrong for not sacking him but its also hard for a board to sack a person who literally built up the youth system, the dressing rooms, appointed Gazidis and literally runs every aspect of the football club. I will blame the board if AW is still here next season but from 2006-present, whatever footballing failures we have, there is only one man responsible- Arsene Wenger.
:gp: I was thinking the same thing. It's a really weak case against the Board. He gets around £20m to spend each season but chooses not to spend it. Or if he does, he'll spend a huge bulk of it on kids. Walcott cost us £10m, Ox £13m, Ramsey £5m.Quote:
Originally Posted by FakeYank
He definitely had at least £20m to spend in this window and choose to spend the bulk of it on Gervinho, Ox, Jenkinson and Campbell. If it wasn't for the injuries and the crushing defeat to Man U, that would have been the end to our business this summer. Look how Merts has just slotted in with our defence. He's been available and linked with our club for ages and we could have snapped him up earlier in the summer or last winter when we knew Vermaelen was out for the season last year but Wenger chose not to sign him. We had the money, it's obvious we had the money but all you have to do is look back on Wenger's comments about the defence and you'll see he felt he could rely on Kosienly, Squallaci and Djourou. Why would you buy another CB when you have players to cover the injured man? That's logical thinking from Wenger, but he misjudge these players ability to cope and that's how it's always been. In the past, he's got it right, such as the time we had Seaman out and Manninger took over and played great in goal. Campbell was out injured for a period and Senderos stepped in and helped us win the FA Cup in his debut season. Kolo Toure wasn't even a CB and he played he was a part of the Invincible team during his first full season as CB.
It's a real weak argument against the Board on that basis. Wenger has a rep for getting value for money. He doesn't spend all of his transfer budget and in most cases he ends up making money for the Board. That's his rep and what he's been doing from the days the start. He sidelined Ian Wright so £500k Anelka could take his place and then sold Anelka for £20+m and bought Henry for £10m. Look at the transfer history. It's always been about value for money when it comes to Wenger and he likes to take gambles on unknown players. But over the years he's taken things a little too far. He convinced the Board to build the training centre and develop the Academy, wouldn't it make sense to utilise that? We built it for this purpose and it's was Wenger's philosophy on how to build a club it was based on. So we wouldn't have to spend loads of money on outside players.
I'll criticise the Board for the bad sponsorship deals and the fact that someone is sitting there signing the checks for player wages and not questioning why it's that high when we've got zero players earning over 100k a week. Over the past few years, Wenger has had at least £20m to spend but he doesn't spend it. When we sold Ade and Toure, he didn't spend straight away and right now we've got money left over from transfers and we'll see what he does in January. Whether it's a budget raised from the money the club makes from tickets, sponsors...etc or player transfers, we can see Wenger won't spend it all. That has always been his way. You can't lay that blame on the Board and it's also worth considering the type of Board we want cause I hearing a lot of confused discussions. Do you really want a Board that can tell a manager what players to buy like Arbamovich does at Chelsea which almost always ends up derailing their season? IMO Wenger is the main problem. He's lost his touch.
Wages.
Installments.
AOC has not cost us anywhere near 15 million quid yet. It will do, but based on appearances, and other conditions. His wages will be piddly compared to an established star.
So, where does that point us??
AOC, say 5 mill, four year contract worth, say, 1.5mil a year. He will be worth his 15mil when he's established, and what will then (we hope) be an absolute fucking steal.
Samba + defensive coach....10mil fee, 3mil a year wages, plus defensive coach wages, is already 15mil.
You're not looking at the bigger picture. Wenger has certainly made some terrible decisions, but the board are the ones with the money. And they are the ones who own that cash. Not Wenger.