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Ach :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Always my fave poster on here tbh.
He'll probs get taken out by Rafel.Quote:
Its time he got another injury tbh. A 2 footer from anyone of our players on his face would do nicely
"Boss i thought he still played for Arsenal"
Best tactics will be to unplug phones and stay of the Internet, don't go to work on Monday and don't buy any newspapers. Certainly don't watch MOTD. Should be fine then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
I suppose your does? Ironic that you're asking for proof when you believe in far out conspiract theories that have absolutely no evidence in support of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Don't be such a plonker. I'm fucking around with you you miserable sod.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
as we all talking about judas, can the two managers please shut the fuck about respecting him, we'll show him the respect he showed us in releasing that statement,
also fergie said that man united always welcome back ex players to old trafford with respect and applause.
whats he been on today? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td-9hY6h5go
Disgusting how the only man on GW to see RVC for what he was, is treated on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Joker :bow:
Oh we are fucked regardless of how we play.
We are a little bit shit.
But its how we lose thats important. Do we collapse like last season and have those ****s humiliate us?
Or do we lose with pride?
We are losers, lets be the best losers we can be. Lets lose with honour, dignity and fight.
That my friends is the Wenger pre match speech right there
You could also say we are like a wounded animal and you know what they say about wounded animals? Take them to the vet to be put down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Wenger's pre-match speech should be:
There is little bit lot of interest and hype surrounding this game. If you want to be noticed by the top teams and get your big money move, this is the chance to not lack sharpness in the final third or drop physically in the second half.
Let's just hope we don't jump out to a 4-0 lead. I can take a beating but not another 4-0 lead!
"They mat take our best player's but they'll never take our passing" Has to be his speech.
No chance of top 3.Quote:
Arsenal legend Robert Pires has insisted his former side can finish in the Premier League top three this season.
The Gunners have endured a mixed start to the season but ensured they remain two points behind fourth-placed Tottenham with a 1-0 win over QPR on Saturday.
And Pires, who was part of an Arsenal side which went an entire domestic season unbeaten to lift the title, believes the current crop have enough about them to finish near the summit.
“I see top three for them,” Pires told ZoneMixte.fr.
“The come-back of Wilshere will be good, Arteta has progressed. Giroud, Podolski, Cazorla have experience at a high level. Therefore, I think, and i hope, they will make great things.”
The 39-year-old also hailed Arsene Wenger’s financial philosophy, believing it will reap rewards once Uefa’s new Financial Fair Play regulations come into play.
He said: “Now, with the fair-play system, Arsenal will be one of the only clean clubs in Europe. When Arsène explains that he wants to qualify in Champions League, he knows that it is an important competition at the economical plan.
“But I understand fans and players who want to win titles. The Premier League, the Cup, even League Cup are important, because it's a means to making a celebration, therefore the words are not the same and I understand that people could be angry.”
Pires went on to dismiss suggestions that the north London club are reluctant to invest in the transfer market, citing the recent arrivals of Santi Cazorla and Olivier Giroud.
He continued: “I think Arsène can spend money. If it was not the case, Cazorla couldn't come, for example.
“Giroud is good. I ask people to be patient with him. It's not easy for Olivier, he has to score goals, in another country, with another language.
“But his second mission is to replace Robin Van Persie, so good luck!
“His relation with Belhanda in Montpellier for example, its the result of work. This kind of relation, he will have with players like Cazorla, Podolski or Walcott, because there are players who play in side and have to give him good pass.
“People have to remember that Thierry Henry didn't score when he arrived. Now he is a legend. Henry was very strong with Bergkamp, i don't know if he could become a great player without him.”
Spot on about Henry and Bergkamp. Bergkamp :bow:
Winterburn :bow:Quote:
Nigel Winterburn believes Arsenal will be making a mistake if they allow Theo Walcott to leave the club.
The England winger is no closer to agreeing a new contract and, with his current deal set to expire at the end of the season, is attracting interest from rivals Liverpool.
Walcott wants assurances that he will start to play through the middle as a striker and Winterburn has urged Arsene Wenger to grant him his wish and keep him at the Emirates.
“I am a bigger fan of Theo Walcott than a lot of pundits,” said the former Gunners star. “It’s showed up over the last few weeks when Theo Walcott hasn’t been around due to injury.
“When he’s come on he’s made a difference. We say about Theo Walcott that he’s not consistent enough, his crossing isn’t good enough when he plays out wide. But he is a good finisher and he has that ability to change a game.
“You need a player like that in the Arsenal team. You also need someone with pace up front as well. I hope eventually he does get that chance to play up front.
“It is a concern that the contract is still dragging out. I don’t think it is about money, I think he genuinely does want to play the majority of the game up front.
“If Arsenal say we can’t guarantee you the majority of games but we will switch you between wide right and up front, I think Theo Walcott would sign for the club.”
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Always been a fan
Nigel :bow:
No, it is all about the moolah --- that is what PHW & majority on gw say. Get with the popular mantra NIGEL :scarf:Quote:
“If Arsenal say we can’t guarantee you the majority of games but we will switch you between wide right and up front, I think Theo Walcott would sign for the club.”
Need to get Paul Davis on the pitch to break some jaws.Quote:
Fresh from an incredible 7-5 victory over Reading, Arsenal return on Saturday to the scene of last season's 8-2 mauling by Manchester United.
Both scorelines would have given former Gunners boss George Graham nightmares and you suspect they will hardly have impressed current coach Steve Bould either - one of the grittiest members of Graham's famously stubborn Arsenal back four in the late eighties, early nineties era.
The 49-year-old former Stoke, Gunners and Sunderland centre-half Bould was brought into manager Arsene Wenger's set-up to improve a defence which was too porous last season.
Arsenal go into the game at United with the tightest defence in the league, letting in just six goals in nine Premier League games, compared with 18 at the same point last season.
They have conceded far fewer shots on goal and the number of tackles they have made has significantly increased too.
Paul Davis, who also played under Graham and chalked up 447 appearances for the Gunners, thinks the defence has gelled as centre-back Per Mertesacker continues to acclimatise to English football and the consistency of right-back Carl Jenkinson improves, although the returning Bacary Sagna is likely to feature on Saturday.
Then there is Bould's influence. Davis, a midfielder who enjoyed a 17-year career at the club, has seen a better shape to the back four and thinks it will improve as the former academy manager increases his authority as assistant manager.
"Steve will have brought some of his experiences with George [Graham] to the current team," Davis told BBC Sport. "Almost every day we did something defensive. It was repetitive and boring, but if it gets results you go with it and you can see the reasoning behind it.
"What was interesting for me is that we have seen Arsenal do zonal marking at set-pieces this season and that's something George never did. So Steve has developed his own ideas. He knows the game and he's learning all the time.
"He's still relatively young working at this level, so he's probably still finding his way to talk to players because he's been working with younger players up until this point and it's a different game altogether.
"It's not as easy as people think; the team is full of internationals, and you have to prove to them you know what you're doing."
However, had the fixture come around sooner, Gunners fans might have approached it with more confidence as recent form has slipped after defeats by Norwich and Schalke.
They conceded just two goals in their first five games, which included a 2-0 victory at Liverpool and a 1-1 draw at champions Manchester City. But then Chelsea exposed flaws in the defence at the Emirates, winning 2-1, and although a win at West Ham restored belief, the picture since the international break has been more worrying.
On Saturday they also face former striker Robin van Persie, who has scored nine goals this season in an ultra-attacking United team, and will be one of the threats Arsenal face at Old Trafford.
One of Van Persie's more impressive traits since moving to Old Trafford has been his link-up play with Wayne Rooney.
Both men are inclined to drop deeper into space to receive the ball, with the Dutchman also adept at drifting into the inside left position. When Van Persie does so, it is Rooney who is often waiting to get on the end of his deliveries.
On the right-hand side, meanwhile, Antonio Valencia has set up Van Persie for goals in his last two league games and will be relishing the prospect of facing Santos, who Davis sees as a "weakness" in the Gunners defence.Davis says Arsenal need to become a more balanced team in order to provide support for each other in key areas like these.
And while the return of Jack Wilshere to the Arsenal midfield could help free the attack-minded Spaniard Santi Cazorla, the England international's ability to provide cover for the back four could be more crucial against United's multi-faceted forward line.
"I feel you do need at least one defending type of midfielder to protect the back players and we haven't really got that in the Arsenal midfield," Davis added.
"Wilshere is quite a forward-thinking player and I know Mikel Arteta is sat in front of the back four and dictating the play, but he's not known for his defensive skills. Those things matter over the course of the season.
"There has been some improvement but maybe we need some new personnel in there to be a more solid unit. Chelsea, for example, have the likes of Ramires and John Mikel Obi, and [Arsenal midfielder] Abou Diaby has been a big miss since he was injured."
But as Wenger has alluded to, there are also concerns in the creative engine room as opposition teams look to block one of Arsenal's main supply lines.
"Arsenal's good form this season has coincided with Cazorla being in command of games," Davis said.
"But Chelsea, particularly, played well against him, and I think they managed to stifle him. Schalke did too. If he isn't ticking, the team hasn't been attacking that well."
Addressing those areas of concern will be crucial to Arsenal getting a positive result at Old Trafford and help erase the memories from last season.
Lets hope soQuote:
Former Arsenal star Mikael Silvestre believes Jack Wilshere’s return to fitness can inspire the club to Capital One Cup glory.
The England star spent 14 months on the sidelines with knee and ankle injuries but made an impressive come back as he played 63 minutes in the Gunners’ 1-0 win over QPR.
And following their dramatic 7-5 victory over Reading, which saw them progress to the last eight of the League Cup, their former defender believes the club’s seven-year trophy drought could be about to end.
Silvestre told the Weekend Sports Breakfast: “I think Arsenal have got a chance in the Capital One Cup. They came back fantastically against Reading, so they can go on in this competition.
“Only Chelsea are the other big gun left in the competition, so they might end up in the final of the League Cup.
“It’s been difficult for Arsenal after losing Robin Van Persie and Alex Song. Also, you have Abou Diaby who is injured at the moment.
“You have to count on Jack Wilshere to bring some magic but there is a lot of weight on his shoulders, he’s still young.”
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Might as well give it a go and get that good feeling back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Yeah i dont know what that meansQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
And im arguably the best in the world at trying to find out what you are trying to say
Dont blame Santos for the first goal at all but the shirt swapping thing was patheticQuote:
Ray Parlour has described Andre Santos' decision to swap shirts with Robin van Persie at the interval of Manchester United's 2-1 win over Arsenal on Saturday as a "joke."
The Brazilian has come under fire for a poor display at Old Trafford, where the left-back failed to deal with the movement of Rafael and Antonio Valencia throughout the game.
And the former Arsenal midfielder believes Santos should have been concentrating more on the game, and less on securing Van Persie's shirt - especially considering the forward scored after just three minutes.
Questioned by The Sun on Santos' action, Parlour said: "That's a joke. I wouldn't have that. At half-time? He should be concentrating on his game and he was having a nightmare."
The £5.6 million signing from Fenerbache has struggled to hold down a regular place in Arsene Wenger's starting line-up since joining in 2011, and did his future chances no favours as he struggled throughout.
Parlour suggested the 29-year-old should not be played in defence again as he was unable to maintain defensive discipline, which ultimately cost Arsenal: "He can't play in a back four as he gets caught out of position all the time."
Santos' tactical intelligence was questioned as early as the third minute, when he failed to pick up the run of compatriot Rafael, whose cross ultimately found its way to Van Persie and the back of the net.
he offered more than enough opportunities to utd for us not to worry about any sort of blame for the first.
Spot on again from WrightyQuote:
ARSENE WENGER has a massive job on his hands. Again.
The Arsenal boss is relying on a squad who in some cases are not up to it — and this worries me.
I completely understand why the club’s fans were furious with Andre Santos for taking Robin van Persie’s shirt at half-time.
But apart from the fact Santos is not good enough and doesn’t appear to care, Wenger has other major problems.
It is baffling that Theo Walcott is repeatedly starting matches on the bench.
The time has come for Theo to not only start but to get a run as a central striker.
Having played in that position, I would like to think I have a good idea of what it takes to operate there.
With Theo’s pace and ability, I absolutely guarantee he will score goals if he gets three or four games up front.
It seems obvious to me and Theo should have had the chance years ago.
He’s a natural. Theo is a quality finisher, as he proved against Reading last week but don’t forget that he has scored goals against all the big clubs.
It doesn’t make sense to keep him as a winger. I understand why the guy has become frustrated with his lack of opportunities down the middle.
It’s annoying as Wenger keeps talking about playing Theo there but never actually does it. I think Olivier Giroud may come good up front but it’s not as though Arsenal have loads of other options.
I find it strange Theo has not played regularly since being unable to agree on a new deal.
It’s a shame, as he seems desperate to stay, unlike some of the stars who have left in recent seasons.
With Theo in the final year of this contract, he really needs to be given the chance to play in the position where he made a stunning impact as a teenager for Southampton.
The results over the last few weeks have shown something has to change.
Arsenal have not been good enough.
The form of defenders Thomas Vermaelen and Laurent Koscielny has been poor.
Bacary Sagna, back again after a broken leg, is a quality full-back. But even he has voiced concerns over the number of big names leaving, so I guess he could be next.
Wenger has said that when a top international player signs for Arsenal, he only asks about if the team is in the Champions League and not whether the club has won a cup.
I don’t know what Wenger is going on about — and I’m still waiting for those top players to arrive rather than go somewhere else.
Over the last six or seven years, Wenger has not signed the players who will take the club back to where it should be. Arsenal have lost out on the likes of Juan Mata and Eden Hazard.
Everyone keeps telling me how many caps Lukas Podolski has won for Germany — but I don’t care about that.
Podolski started well for Arsenal but he needs to be more consistent.
Wenger did incredibly well to take the club to third last term after a tough start but these are testing times.
Santos is a poor left-back. It’s been a long time since I have seen an Arsenal defender play this badly on a regular basis.
He gets roasted by opponents, caught out of position and goes to ground too easily. But the shirt incident on Saturday was really annoying.
I was lucky enough to swap shirts with Lothar Matthaus, Zinedine Zidane and George Weah — as you’d expect, the exchange was always made at the end of the game.
Had I asked for the shirt of Eric Cantona at half-time at Old Trafford, the boys in our team would have ripped my head off in the changing rooms.
But I would never have asked in the first place.
Santos was disrespectful to the supporters, disrespectful to his team-mates and disrespectful to the Arsenal badge.
I felt embarrassed for Santos.
The most worrying aspect of this unbelievable incident is it appears there is not enough discipline under Wenger.
Whether Santos asked for the shirt or it was offered by Van Persie is irrelevant — he took the item.
I hope Santos got abuse in the dressing room from his team-mates — but he probably didn’t. And that’s a shame.
I get loads of stick from Gooners but I love the club. I have to ask whether some of the current players really care.
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This was from before the Schalke match
Has impressed after a car crash of a season last seasonQuote:
Former England international Lee Dixon feels that Arsenal defender Carl Jenkinson has a bright future ahead of him following his call-up to Roy Hodgson's squad to face Sweden.
The firner right-back, who played over 600 games for the Gunners, argues that the former Charlton man has stepped up and improved this season due to more playing time in Bacary Sagna's absence with injury.
The 48-year-old notes that Jenkinson has all the attributes to be a top player for Arsene Wenger's side and hopes that he can continue to progress even now that the Frenchman has returned to action.
"He's certainly got potential to be an international player," Dixon told the club's official website. "The important thing with young lads like that is you let their progress go unhindered.
"He seems like a good kid. I don't know him but I'd like to sit down with him and have a chat to find out what his thoughts are. I believe he's a really good kid and he's got a huge future ahead of him.
"As a player, you want a chance to play and show what you can do, as well as learning as you're playing. It's important you get those opportunities. Sometimes you don't always get a chance to get a run of first-team games because it's not your time. I like him a lot. I think he's got a lot of attributes to go towards being a very good full-back.”
Dixon feels that the 20-year-old has shown a lot of maturity to adapt to the Premier League after limited experience at the Valley and hopes that he will continue to progress in the future.
"It’s a big step and he's done it a little bit differently to me," the ex-pro continued. "He's only played about five minutes for Charlton before he came. I played quite a few games in the lower league and knew a little bit about was I was doing. It was still a big leap [for me] to come to Arsenal.
"He's gone right in the deep end. He's an Arsenal lad as well so it's good to see. The fans relate to it - they can see his passion. He's still got a lot to learn but I see a lot of potential in him going on and being a top-class full-back.
"As long as he keeps trying to learn and progress, and not think he's made it when he's played 50 games, then he's got a real chance."
http://www.skysports.com/tv_show/sto...281501,00.htmlQuote:
David Seaman says Arsenal fans should vent their frustrations at the lack of investment in the club, rather than criticising manager Arsene Wenger.
The Gunners boss was subjected to jeers during the goalless draw with Aston Villa on Saturday evening with a section of the travelling supporters chanting 'you don't know what you're doing' when he substituted Olivier Giroud for Francis Coquelin in the closing stages.
But former Arsenal goalkeeper Seaman, who won the Premier League under Wenger in both 1998 and 2002, said the club would not be able to find another manager of his calibre.
And he insists the Frenchman is doing a good job on a budget which is not as high as many rival clubs.
He told Goals on Sunday: "Arsene Wenger was getting a load of stick from the Arsenal fans and there was a chant going round 'can we have our Arsenal back?'
"Say they didn't have a manager at the moment and Arsene Wenger was out there with his track record, they would take him any day.
"For me it's not the manager where the restrictions are, it's the financial restrictions."
Heart
Seaman has seen Arsenal sell the likes of Robin van Persie, Cesc Fabregas, Samir Nasri and Alex Song in recent years and feels it will be difficult to achieve success without retaining their top players.
And he said a bigger investment may be needed at board level to ensure the club's top performers are not tempted to move on.
Seaman added: "Losing your captains all the time - like Van Persie and Fabregas - is like when Patrick Vieira left. It takes the heart out of the team.
"We used to be able to keep our best players and that's why we were winning trophies, but at the moment we can't do that.
"What are people looking at Arsenal for? Are they looking to advance their careers? They're not looking to advance themselves financially because they know they can get more money elsewhere.
"It's going to be hard for them to attract players and what's happening is they're getting players in, making them into great players and then they're having to let them go.
"When Arsene came it was a given that they'd be in the Champions League all the time and we were winning things as well, but you can't do what they're doing at the moment and expect to win trophies."
Just thought id post the full article.
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Seaman added: "Losing your captains all the time - like Van Persie and Fabregas - is like when Patrick Vieira left. It takes the heart out of the team.
There really is no heart left - and that is what is really hard to stomach.
A real kidney punch. We just don't have the guts for it any more. I've given up venting my spleen.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Seaman, Parlour, Wright, Adams.... they all state the obvious but for some reason they don't understand that in their day the only competition was Man U. It's A LOT harder now for Arsenal to win anything.
I agree this season will likely be a fuck up and our team is shite. BUT we finished 3rd last year only behind City and Manure and above Chelsea - does anyone expect Arsenal to finish any higher than 3rd? You could have Mourinho as boss of Arsenal and give him £50m to spunk and he still wouldn't do better than 3rd.
for seven years? i don't believe that. even if it was once where we were real challengers going into april/may then that would be something to cling onto, instead of a loop of mistakes.
Well we have challenged in that 7 years. The trouble now is we've won jack for so long that every year we will lose our best player because the grass is greener else where. This makes it impossible to achieve any kind of success.
If we'd have kept Cole, Fabregas, RVP, Nasri we'd be challenging right now for sure.
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Originally Posted by Grebbo
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
This is the number points from 1st we were at the end of March (taken from statto.com).
2011-2012 : 14
2010-2011 : 5
2009-2010 : 4
2008-2009 : 10
2007-2008 : 6
2006-2007 : 23
2005-2006 : 28 :lol:
Statto.com :bow:
I have a feeling we're in 05/06 and 06/07 territory this year.
No chance. In both those seasons we finished top 4 and reached a final in another competition. Top 4 is gone this season and reaching a final looks unlikelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
League Cup final this season tbh.
The quality in the PL this year is at an all time low. Even the big 3 look lightweight. We can stumble into 4th again playing a mixture of abject shit and inconsistent but quality football. We've seen it every year, that's the one thing we have come to rely on - a lack of variation, zero surprises. We just have to watch out for an Everton or Newcastle tumbling into our spot by accident. This is a really shit league. We are capable of 4th.
and then april starts. i mean sure, we've finished third a couple of times but given the gap from the top, it is only a surface stat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
we haven't challenged once. not realistically. at no point could we look back and say 'ooh, that was a close one. we just missed out there.' always the same collapses at the same times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
We were in with a shout till the last game in 07/08 season in which Dudu had his leg snapped. It was a distant shout in the last game where we needed both Chelsea and Utd to lose but at least we lasted till the last game. We were leading by up to 8 points up until February till Tiny decided to change all that. That game against Brum still makes me cry :crying:Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
:lol: Hey man, you were the one who stipulated 'going into april/may'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
I was not racist against your comment, I was just interested to see exactly how not challenging we were for the last 7 years. The facts are just what they are. Disregard at will tbh.