Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist

I like the fact you constantly belittle the manager for having no ambition, only settling for second best etc etc, and then call it a joke when he tries to sign world class strikers. I mean there is shifting the goalposts, and then theres that.

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The fact that we only went for Benzema and Cavani suggests Wenger was happy with what he had rather than acknowledging the need for a better striker than Giroud, and should have been sent his scouting network to scour the continent and possibly others to make sure that we had it covered.
No one is advocating what United have done with Martial, I don't necessarily think it's a panic buy but who knows if they have done their homework to ascertain whether he will prove to be worth the gamble or will be the next Freddy Adu.

There is an issue of valuation, if a club values a player higher than Wenger values him than we won't do a deal, that is ridiculous....

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I'd stick him on the porch bench and get Ramsey to mow the lawn.

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Good idea, Ramsey needs to re familiarise himself with hard work. Set him a time limit for mowing front and back so he won't trundle around your garden the way he trundles back when we've lost possession.

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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist

I like the fact you constantly belittle the manager for having no ambition, only settling for second best etc etc, and then call it a joke when he tries to sign world class strikers. I mean there is shifting the goalposts, and then theres that.

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Did we even try? There is no solid evidence that we even tried. And IF we did, why did we start so late?

Not that it matters.. lets just wait for the manager to piss off in 2017 and become an actual football club.

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Originally Posted by Özim

He's a joke end of.

Allegedly tried to sign, there's no proof, just press nonsense, even if he did, he went for players who really weren't realistic because he's as cheap as they come and those players were never going to be sold by these rich clubs for peanuts, even if they were available (Benzema clearly wasn't)

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I like how you ignore evidence that contradicts your point. Mesut Ozil was unavailable to sign, and we managed to sign and paid a record fee. The next season, we again went to a big club and signed another world class player for a lot of money. But hey, wenger is cheap.

The players that were realistic, were bentekke, lambert, dzecko etc, none of those are an upgrade on Giroud so would have been a waste. The players that we needed are the world class strikers, sadly there aren't many of those around, so we had to try to get one from a big club. My, that actually sounds quite ambitious from someone who is not ambitious.

You can't slate a manager for being unambitious, and then slate him for trying to sign ambitious players. That just makes you look like an idiot

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

The fact that we only went for Benzema and Cavani suggests Wenger was happy with what he had rather than acknowledging the need for a better striker than Giroud, and should have been sent his scouting network to scour the continent and possibly others to make sure that we had it covered.
No one is advocating what United have done with Martial, I don't necessarily think it's a panic buy but who knows if they have done their homework to ascertain whether he will prove to be worth the gamble or will be the next Freddy Adu.

There is an issue of valuation, if a club values a player higher than Wenger values him than we won't do a deal, that is ridiculous....

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That doesn't even make sense.

And united purchase of Martial is the definition of a panic buy.

Wengcunt has no business getting involved in the transfer fees.
He should be able to get involved with the negotiations to convince the player he wants him, but that is where his involvement has to end.

Give the board your list and let them work out the figures.

The guy is a fucking liability. I don't care if he wins everything this year, I cannot wait for him to fuck off.

Arsene Wengcunt :bow:.

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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist

That doesn't even make sense.

And united purchase of Martial is the definition of a panic buy.

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It does make sense it means that if we clearly identified a need for a striker (which we should have) we should have been exploring all options

It depends really, if they intend to use him right away it is....if he's an investment for the future and they are signing him before any club gets their hands on him than not really. It's a massive gamble for a 19 year old either way

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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist

I like how you ignore evidence that contradicts your point. Mesut Ozil was unavailable to sign, and we managed to sign and paid a record fee. The next season, we again went to a big club and signed another world class player for a lot of money. But hey, wenger is cheap.

The players that were realistic, were bentekke, lambert, dzecko etc, none of those are an upgrade on Giroud so would have been a waste. The players that we needed are the world class strikers, sadly there aren't many of those around, so we had to try to get one from a big club. My, that actually sounds quite ambitious from someone who is not ambitious.

You can't slate a manager for being unambitious, and then slate him for trying to sign ambitious players. That just makes you look like an idiot

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Ozil wasn't unavailable at all, Real had just signed a plethora of midfielders, they were overloaded and they were looking to sell a player or two,

Sanchez was available after Barca decided he wasn't part of their plans after not really making it there, both players were available, both very good but neither were exactly what we needed (though I'm glad we got them).

Yes Wenger is cheap, Ozil was a pressure signing after he'd failed to sign anyone decent and everyone was getting on his back, he's spent next to nothing in 10 years and has haggled over the odd million here and there and missed out on top quality, sorry but in the transfer market he's the definition of a joker.

There's loads of players better than Giroud and co including Benteke, but you can find better players if you bothered looking (El Shaarawy, Martinez, Lacazette to name but three), it seems that we with our collection of scouts can't identify any players than the chumps we have who couldn't hit a barndoor with a banjo and that's seemingly been the case for years now.

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

Arsene Wengcunt :bow:.

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:lol: