Have we lost our " Big team " Status or just the " Fear factor" ?

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

We're still a big club of course, what we have lost is pulling power when it comes to signing players, top players aren't going to want to sign because we have no real stars they'd dream of playing alongside, end our season in meteoric collapses, never win a thing and we get outclassed by teams in Europe, in addition we don't show any ambition in the transfer market and have a manager who openly admits 4th place is the primary aim.

We're creating a very negative image of the club with our current policies, we're attractive to kids because they'll get paid a lot and play a lot as well (and then move on once they've proved themselves), but there's no incentive for the better players to come.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

But I can give you an example : Saint Etienne was a big club in France with a fantastic history , fan base , money , good players etc.. That was in the sixties and seventies . But they can't maintain themselves in the top division atm . They are forgotten and Lyon , Marseilles , Paris-saint Ger
main have taken over .

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Well sure, I'm not saying it doesn't happen and it could happen to us. But we've been a big club and had a rich history for the last 80 years. We have a massive stadium and fan-base. It could happen to us but I don't think it's likely.
But are we a big club NOW? Of course we are!

Agree with Zimm's post though.

We arent

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/tran...cle764500.html

Wenger says so himself

Wenger talks a lot of shit tbh.

Manages a lot of shit as well

"I believe for us it is important the message we give out. For example, you talk about Fabregas leaving, Nasri leaving.



"If you give that message out, you cannot pretend you are a big club, because a big club first of all holds onto its big players and gives a message out to all the other big clubs that they just cannot come in and take away from you.

Didn't need Wengers words to know that we're a selling club. It's been going on for years.

I don't really care if we are a 'big club'. There are so many arbitrary measures anyway.

I just want us to be in a position where we are a competitive club when it counts towards winning something. Right now, we are not a competitive Club and it is that which concerns me.