4th Place Trophy

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Originally Posted by Synti Claus

I don't think there's much point looking at the gap at this stage. Stoke are 4 points off 3rd place, and we would think there is absolutely no way we can finish in the top 4.

It's all about the perceived level of quality in the team. Our competition will probably be: Everton, Newcastle, Swansea, Tottenham, Liverpool. While it is clear that the likes of Cazorla, Wilshere, Arteta, Podolski, Sagna, Vermaelen etc. won't be good enough to compete against the top 3 teams, I think we're playing well below the potential of the players. But at the moment the issue isn't about quality (we could do with more, but, obviously this team is better than 10th place in the league). I think Wenger is having a very hard time motivating players and getting them to do what he wants because they've lost faith in him.


Slightly off-topic:

For all we mock Wenger's interviews, he's right when he keeps saying there is a 'lack of confidence'. Confidence is absolutely crucial to a team that wants to play good football. Confidence isn't about taking players on and having a crack from 20 yards. It's about playing passes first time and passing it to your teammate in impossible situations because you know he'll get you out of this mess. Right now, players take 20 touches because if they pass it first time, they're worried: 1) they'll misplace the pass themselves. 2) their teammates won't be able to trap it.

When Wenger tells Cazorla or Wilshere or whoever that this is a good team and you will be able to pass it forward quickly, they don't believe him. Each one of them thinks they're playing with fairly average players. And you can see that lack of trust every time you watch us play now.

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I only mentioned the points thing because despite our recent malaise we're really not that far away from 3rd. And we do have slightly more pedigree in terms of finishing top 4 than Stoke.
Otherwise though, yeah. What you said :(

I'm sure we'll do enough in January to give us enough impetus, for that coveted slot. And then cycle can continue. :bow:

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost of Christmas

I'm sure we'll do enough in January to give us enough impetus, for that coveted slot. And then cycle can continue. :bow:

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Menstrual FC :bow:

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Originally Posted by NoeLDG

Menstrual FC :bow:

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:haha:

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Originally Posted by NoeLDG

Menstrual FC :bow:

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We bleed Arsenal. :unsure:

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Originally Posted by Meh-ry Christmas

We're 5 points off 3rd place with less than a third of the season gone and there's absolutely no way we can finish in the top 4.

Really?

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Well we have a chance as the league is shite this season and lets be honest, Spurs, Everton, Pool will bottle points in the 2nd half of the season, its whether we take out chances.

Win the CoC and 5th id take that. I agree with LDG its hard to really care when the ****s and the manager show no passion for the club or the fans.

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Originally Posted by Meh-ry Christmas

We're 5 points off 3rd place with less than a third of the season gone and there's absolutely no way we can finish in the top 4.

Really?

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yep really. i am never usually so despondent about our team. even after our 8-2 last season i was backing us for 4th place. but this lot? not with wenger in charge. tottenham and everton are better teams than us and we'll do 5th at best.

We're not gonna finish 4th this year we're too shit. Compare us to last year (and previous years) the team is alot worse and we don't have a 30 games a season goal scorer to bail us out.

Nope it's mid-table mediocrity for us, we may get the last place for the Europa League.