No, I have more than that mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synti Claus
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No, I have more than that mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synti Claus
DOH!
I agree with that. He hasn't had crazy money to spend, but he's had enough to replace key players and he's chosen not to use it because he's had faith in the young kids on the bench to take over. That's his philosophy and always has been because he apes the Ajax club set up and that’s always been his vision for Arsenal. We’re seeing a huge influx of players now because the old team he had faith in have left (RVP, Nasri, Cesc, Song) or he’s finally realised certain players just aren’t good enough (Denilson, Bendy, Djourou, Vela). Money has always been there and it’s not because of the new sponsorship deal that the Board are saying fund are available because that money hasn’t even kicked in yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey
We spent a lot over the past two windows, wholesale type buys and it’s necessary now because he’s refused to spend a little on repair jobs and now the roof has caved in. When Vermaelen was out injured for a season or when RVP was out and we’ve struggled during the season, I don’t believe that Wenger has been denied £10m - £15m to spend on a replacements. A player like Merts, Arteta or Podolski wouldn’t be so bad if they were brought in during a January transfer window to help out while we’re tired and wouldn’t cost much either. Players like that sprinkled in with guys like Cesc, Nasri, RVP and Song would have helped us during the season and given us some options off the bench at least. But as seen, Wenger can’t manage a big squad and has no idea to rotate players which is why he avoids buying players that would bring competition to other first teamers. When he has such options, he makes stupid decisions, as see with Gervinho and Ramsey or he goes to the extreme and freezes them out of the squad totally (Arshavin, Chamakh, Squallci). That’s just bad management. He either makes bizarre choices or runs players into the ground until they break.
Before we moved to the Emirates, Wenger has always been applauded for being able to build a championship winning team on a small budget and his ideas haven’t changed. We haven’t had the sort of money to compete with Chelsea and City but we’ve had enough to buy the sort calibre players that dominate the first team now. They’re not expensive, not terrible either but no way are they of the same class that we used to have. If we’d have made one or two smart buys each season to help lighten the load, I believe we’d have won more and certain players would have stayed.
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
It's probably my biggest bug bear over the last 5 years. That we didn't spend 15/20 mil in January to keep us strong, and keep us going. We had the league in our sights twice, and going strong in other competitions, and all we needed was to bolster the squad instead of gambling on form, fitness and unproven players.
@ the OP.
I would dearly like to know what you are blaming the 'board' for in contrast to Wenger. There are 3 potential criticisms:
1. Under investment in the team.
This argument would go, presumably, that the board is denying AW the funds that he needs to achieve success. But to me this just doesn't make any sense. Firstly - if the 'board' is so averse to spending money, why allow the manager to piss away millions - more than everyone but the top 2 or 3 teams in the country -on wages for mediocre players who represent litttle more than gambles on the manager's part? The amount we pay in wages is simply inconsistent with a parsimonious approach. At best (and I don't believe this for a minute) the board might be saying 'here's your budget' and having spent this on wages, there is nothing more available for transfers. But even in this scenario, Wenger would be at fault for using his resources in a completely irresponsible manner, surely? Do people really think that our nonsensical 'wage equality' policy that results in our top players not being paid market rate (and subsequently leaving) is down to the board?
Secondly - and noone has answered this point adequately - what possible motivation can AW have to stay if he is being made to look like a chump because he is denied funds? Some might say because he gets paid more than his top players. But if this is true, then I regard him as just as much at fault by putting his own wage interests above the interests of the team - he is certainly no 'scapegoat' in this scenario.
2. Being made to sell our top players
The argument here goes that Wenger is forced to sell his top players so that the club can show a healthy profit. Again, I just don't buy this. I accept that the club's policy might be that it cannot compete with the wages offered by the richest clubs. But what I cannot accept is that if this is so, Wenger is not as intimately involved in this as the board. Again, why not walk rather than be made to look like a mug? But further, look beyond the RVP's and the Nasri's, and look instead at Fabregas - whom AW helped to leave; Song - who was clearly not a wage issue, and Walcott - who is not demanding anything beyond the means of the club to pay. These are managers' choices, not board choices. And they show that Wenger is quite prepared to let his talent go. It is far more logical to suppose that in 9/10 cases player departures are manager's choices. Particularly when it is known to one and all that Wenger enjoys unprecedented influence at AFC.
3. Lack of ambition
Now this is a relevant criticism. I have said on the other thread that owners and board are guilty of sin for the mismanagement of our club. But to think that Wenger is a pawn in their unabitious game is ridiculous. We well know Wenger's philosophy as regards overpayment for players. Do you really believe that his comments about 4th place being a trophy are dictated to him by the board? Get real. Wenger forgives his own players' mediocrity on the pitch, and justifies his own mediocrity as a manager by bitching about the club's inability to compete with the big boys. Well guess what? We are a big club. The second biggest by turnover in the country, with the 4th biggest wage bill. It isn't lack of funds that has won us only 6 games this season?
The board are guilty as hell of lack of ambition. But Wenger is no scapegoat in this regard.
yeah its stan's fault:
ramsey plays on the wing
we play 4-3-3 whether its bradford or barcelona
have no tactics
team arent motivated
no determination
bizarre substitutions
OP's username fits in nicely with his state of mind.
For me Wenger`s greatest fault is that he is a ffg egomaniac. He has never liked an idea that never comes out of his own head. This kind of person as a CEO, as a team leader of an an organisation where peoples destinies are involved is the most calamitous kind. You have seen them ruin many a company with their I know it all attitude.
First he does not allow dissent of any kind. He thinks as a former defender he knows how to organise defence......EPIC FAIL. He neither knows how to identify defensive talent, nor does he know how to train them. When everyone was calling out for Cahill 2 seasons ago he reluctantly put in a bid of 6m........6m!!!, which Bolton of course laughed out of the gate. 8m would have sealed the deal, I reckon. Wenger when questioned said later he bid 6m because that was how much Cahill was worth. An England international?. 6 months later he now paid 10m for Kosceilny who had not played a single game for France at the time. He simply cant stand the idea that someone else thinks of something that works out. He was hoping that he would prove to the whole world that Kozzer was a better buy,. adding to the Wenger legend
Secondly he has become infatuated by some new fangled football opus that he has composed in his head. A football philosophy that he had adopted after Henry left and in which the lynchpins were Cesc, Song and Diaby. These 3 have all gone now and yet he persists with it A Barcelona-lite method with infinitely worse players which eschews shooting outside the box and spontaneity from individuals. Jack is now his new muse and if not careful he will play this boy into the orthopedic home. Jack himself needs to be learning his trade from better players not having the whole team built on his shoulders. At Dortmund they have a similar player in Mario Goetze but instead of making him carry the team they bought another talented player Marco Reus to share the load. This is what good managers do. they strategise to win. Dortmund made sure they bought Reus even though Bayern were interested. If this was Arsenal we would have let United buy Reus and sold them Goetze too, citing football reasons.
3rdly.......which bullshit no hope team would allow Almunia to stink up the goalkeeping box for 3 seasons, with more shit in the wings like Fabianski and Manonne. Would believe that Eboue was a proper footballer and replaces him for comedy value with Gervinho.
Ramsey is a conundrum. I did not know much about him before he joined us but he is so limited a player i have to believe the talent was there but has been severely curtailed by a combination of the injury and bad training which have kept him back. He should have gone to United as he would have been a better player notwithstanding the injury. I also believe that his choosing us over United is one of the reasons why Wenger keeps playing him, but then again Wenger has persisted with crap players for so long before that its hard to rationalise his decisions.
lastly which team regularly does bottle jobs like us? 0-3 up at Newcastle before scraping 4-4. 1-0 with 1 minute to spare against the Pool and eboue conceded a penalty in the last 20 secs, Liverpool in the CL quarters and SendErrors messes up again, Beating the spuds 4-2 eventually 4-4. Deer in headlight performaces against United that Wigan would be ashamed of. I could go on but the list is endless. These are symptoms of structural and mental deficiencies in a team. All down to the manager. Nothing to do with the board.
I have already established in another thread is that it is Roger Daltry's fault.
It doesn't seem as if Wenger and the board are at loggerheads does it?Quote:
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger insists he has always received total backing from the club's board.
Wenger's comments come after Arsenal were criticised by Uzbek billionaire Alisher Usmanov, the club's second-largest shareholder, for withholding funds from the manager.
Usmanov - whose Red & White Holdings group are not represented on the board - also hit out at the Gunners board for their decision to sell Robin van Persie to Manchester United.
"This decision was a mistake," Usmanov said. "If I am one of Wenger's players I would want to stay for the finish, but he explained Robin wanted to go to win trophies."
But Wenger is adamant he has supported the decisions from the boardroom as he believes they have put the club's best interests first.
"I believe I have always had the support from the board, and am very grateful for that," Wenger said.
"We have worked over the years in respecting in what we did, which is to always work within our financial resources.
"Therefore we made decisions which from outside looked not based on purely footballing reasons, but it was based as well on financial reasons."
Do you really think he would openly critisise the board? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
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